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Jonny 5 wrote:
What happens when you go to sell the cars?

Are both suddenly worth nothing?

No didnt think so, ones an asset you can sell the other frankly is a liability that you will struggle to get decent money for.
Never knew S2000s were depreciation free, feck I should buy one if that's the case........................ heads to kitchen to eat bowl of rice krispies in record time and then plans to dash off to buy one of these assets before they're all snapped up by shrewd investers :)
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are we back on this?

I thought I had lowered the tone of this topic so much it was beyond repair.

*must try harder*
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munky wrote:
*must try harder*
You're clearly losing your touch, wafting about in the Lexus may be having an effect on you, perhaps you should paint the wheels black or something :lol:
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erm... I did that already... before I even drove it home. :oops:

Yes I know... I have issues. :twisted:
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618ireland wrote:
Jonny 5 wrote:
What happens when you go to sell the cars?

Are both suddenly worth nothing?

No didnt think so, ones an asset you can sell the other frankly is a liability that you will struggle to get decent money for.
Never knew S2000s were depreciation free, feck I should buy one if that's the case........................ heads to kitchen to eat bowl of rice krispies in record time and then plans to dash off to buy one of these assets before they're all snapped up by shrewd investers :)

I sold mine for £600 more than i bought it for..does that count :lol:
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618ireland wrote:
Jonny 5 wrote:
What happens when you go to sell the cars?

Are both suddenly worth nothing?

No didnt think so, ones an asset you can sell the other frankly is a liability that you will struggle to get decent money for.
Never knew S2000s were depreciation free, feck I should buy one if that's the case........................ heads to kitchen to eat bowl of rice krispies in record time and then plans to dash off to buy one of these assets before they're all snapped up by shrewd investers :)
Assets are things you have, it doesn't mean they are depreciation proof, just it means they have a place in a market with a well defined market value.

For example if you wanted a BMW E46 M3 as your next car, its easier to get by cashing in your asset if its a Honda S2000 rather than a Rover Turbo. Typically you would need to throw double the cash at the upgrade if stepping from a Rover Turbo.

Thats why the value part of a car is pretty m00t when it comes to such comparisons.

If you were getting picky about investments then the way to get the least return is to spend it modifying a low value low demand car anyway.
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MarkCoupe wrote:
I sold mine for £600 more than i bought it for..does that count :lol:
Most definitely :) You are a shrewd bastad though :wink:
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Jonny 5 wrote:

For example if you wanted a BMW E46 M3 as your next car, its easier to get by cashing in your asset if its a Honda S2000 rather than a Rover Turbo. Typically you would need to throw double the cash at the upgrade if stepping from a Rover Turbo.

Thats why the value part of a car is pretty m00t when it comes to such comparisons.
So we ignore purchase price of these assets so do we, ok.
Re the bit I put in bold, aside from a "WTF" or "are you after 7 bottles of Tipex" I don't know what to say to that.
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£10k S2000, £2k Rover turbo and you wanna buy a good M3 for £18k?

One of those you need £8k the other £16k.

I didnt know stock 220's were faster than S2000's...?
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OK enoughs enough. Im locking this thread.

**LOCKED TBH***
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Fail :oops:
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If the best argument you have for buying an S2000 in a performance related thread is the depreciation factor, I think you have missed the point of owning an S2000. :P

If you wanted an E46 M3 as your next car it doesn't really matter what car you have currently, if it doesn't exceed the value of the bimmer, you still have to find the cash. 8k or 16k, if you don't have either then you're not driving heim.

With the money you will lose in depreciation by stepping up to an E46 via an S2000 you could of made your Rover just as fast as an E46. But that is not the reason you would buy one, nor is it the reason you would buy an S2000.


I think what this thread has highlighted, apart from why you shouldn't listen to a fanboy, or base an opinion of a car on traffic light race, is that owning and selecting a car is a very personal choice. If they were all the same (and unfortunately they are getting that way) then it would be a very boring experience, rather like buying a new microwave.

A car is a chance to express personality and individual choice, all get you from A to B with the exception of an Alfa Romeo - so saying one is better than another is completely idiotic. My old landrover is not economical, comfortable, fast or very practical - but I wouldn't have it any other way.

About a year ago I had the option to ditch the Ti and purchase an alternative car, both an S2000 and an E46 would have been within the selection criteria, however I still have a Ti. The decision was not made lightly and never based purely on the specifications on a piece of paper, although I'm quite happy to say if it was, the Ti would have still won :P

Seriously people, stop making excuses and enjoy the car you have, if you don't, change it for one that you do. Life is far too short.
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Null_Byte wrote:
I think what this thread has highlighted, apart from why you shouldn't listen to a fanboy, is just how much of a mangod Mark is
Awww! Couldnt have put it better maself JD
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MarkCoupe wrote:
Null_Byte wrote:
I think what this thread has highlighted, apart from why you shouldn't listen to a fanboy, is just how much of a mongoloid Mark is
Awww! Couldnt have put it better maself JD
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Jonny 5 wrote:£10k S2000, £2k Rover turbo and you wanna buy a good M3 for £18k?

One of those you need £8k the other £16k.
I see what you mean :)
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:lol: funny shizzle
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Null_Byte wrote:
I think what this thread has highlighted, apart from why you shouldn't listen to a fanboy, or base an opinion of a car on traffic light race, is that owning and selecting a car is a very personal choice. If they were all the same (and unfortunately they are getting that way) then it would be a very boring experience, rather like buying a new microwave.
tbh, there is as much variation in the microwave market as there is in the motor trade.

Do you want it to be a combi? with steamer, crisper, grill?

eco friendly or high power?

dial or digital

touch sensitive buttons or microswitches

do you trust the 'program times'?

what if I buy one with an 850w power rating? the times on the back of the packets ony go up to 750...

and of course... stainless, mirrored or white?



I think your casual brush aside of the complexities of the microwave world is disgusting tbh.
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munky wrote:[I think your casual brush aside of the complexities of the microwave world is disgusting tbh.
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munky wrote:
Null_Byte wrote:
I think what this thread has highlighted, apart from why you shouldn't listen to a fanboy, or base an opinion of a car on traffic light race, is that owning and selecting a car is a very personal choice. If they were all the same (and unfortunately they are getting that way) then it would be a very boring experience, rather like buying a new microwave.
tbh, there is as much variation in the microwave market as there is in the motor trade.

Do you want it to be a combi? with steamer, crisper, grill?

eco friendly or high power?

dial or digital

touch sensitive buttons or microswitches

do you trust the 'program times'?

what if I buy one with an 850w power rating? the times on the back of the packets ony go up to 750...

and of course... stainless, mirrored or white?



I think your casual brush aside of the complexities of the microwave world is disgusting tbh.
:lol:

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munky wrote:
tbh, there is as much variation in the microwave market as there is in the motor trade.
Thats why I stick with my Sanyo after all these years. 800watts of 80s raditation :twisted:

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618ireland wrote:
Jonny 5 wrote:£10k S2000, £2k Rover turbo and you wanna buy a good M3 for £18k?

One of those you need £8k the other £16k.
I see what you mean :)
how much did you pay for the S2000 and how much did you pay for the R200?
How much spare change was left in the bank after the purchase of the R200 due to price difference and how long have we had the cars ... cos Mark probably sold his after owning for a pretty short time to make money on it.
One thing is certain..the R200 will not depreciate anything like an S2000...unless I own it and then the dents scratches and general beatings may.
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shen wrote:
618ireland wrote:
Jonny 5 wrote:£10k S2000, £2k Rover turbo and you wanna buy a good M3 for £18k?

One of those you need £8k the other £16k.
I see what you mean :)
how much did you pay for the S2000 and how much did you pay for the R200?
How much spare change was left in the bank after the purchase of the R200 due to price difference and how long have we had the cars ... cos Mark probably sold his after owning for a pretty short time to make money on it.
One thing is certain..the R200 will not depreciate anything like an S2000...unless I own it and then the dents scratches and general beatings may.

Shen i really must see some pictures of your battered car :D it sounds like it has a lot of character:D
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He posted a picture of it a few months ago.

It was... interesting :oops:
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alexcornwall wrote:
shen wrote:
618ireland wrote:
Jonny 5 wrote:£10k S2000, £2k Rover turbo and you wanna buy a good M3 for £18k?

One of those you need £8k the other £16k.
I see what you mean :)
how much did you pay for the S2000 and how much did you pay for the R200?
How much spare change was left in the bank after the purchase of the R200 due to price difference and how long have we had the cars ... cos Mark probably sold his after owning for a pretty short time to make money on it.
One thing is certain..the R200 will not depreciate anything like an S2000...unless I own it and then the dents scratches and general beatings may.

Shen i really must see some pictures of your battered car :D it sounds like it has a lot of character:D
here's how it looked in 2007
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Pics and text robbed from my original post of it as it mings..

have a giggle...the uber knacked body work on my coupe thanks to the uber tight multi storey car park where i work and a bunch of complete xylophones who live near me

in 3rd pic down theres a strip on the arch...that's where I learnt my lesson...after some inflatable dinghy scraped it I began process of repairing myself only to have some other pecker do the same even worse only a few days later

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I did spray the bonnet myself...first ever go at spraying anything so that looks logger too :D

enjoy

Funny thing is, the rear arches with regards to rust are still in alot better nick than coupes that arent as old as mine :lol:
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:lol: that has amused me somewhat - like you say though - if it's going to continually get scraped and battered not a lot of point doing much about it :D you keep it nice and clean! those wheels are looking in good nick too.
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shen wrote:
618ireland wrote:
Jonny 5 wrote:£10k S2000, £2k Rover turbo and you wanna buy a good M3 for £18k?

One of those you need £8k the other £16k.
I see what you mean :)
how much did you pay for the S2000 and how much did you pay for the R200?.
Thing is no stock Rover 200 would annoy an S2000 so your point is m00t.
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the turbo shed is awesome!!!! and bullet proof, its the only car i know that fixes its self :lol:
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Dickie adams wrote:the turbo shed is awesome!!!! and bullet proof, its the only car i know that fixes its self :lol:
Thanks for that matey, you know it's an awesome coupe despite it's rough looks...though the starter motor doesnt seem to be fixing itself quickly enough and I may need to borrow the spare you have ;)


Unless it behaves and doesn't give me another chirp till the weekend :D
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your car looked mint in 2007 mate! wouldnt you like it looking like that again?
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matt077 wrote:your car looked mint in 2007 mate! wouldnt you like it looking like that again?
Would love for it to still look mint but as said it's had so so many knocks and scrapes and so few of them from me there's no point in fixing it back up to that level...I like the car alot cos it's been such a good runner and so solid for me but sadly I could buy another for the price of fixing it up.
Moral of the story...don't have a car you love as a daily drive when you park in a tight multistorey car park every day.
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shen wrote:
Dickie adams wrote:the turbo shed is awesome!!!! and bullet proof, its the only car i know that fixes its self :lol:
Thanks for that matey, you know it's an awesome coupe despite it's rough looks...though the starter motor doesnt seem to be fixing itself quickly enough and I may need to borrow the spare you have ;)


Unless it behaves and doesn't give me another chirp till the weekend :D
no probs bud, if it still plays up hit it with a hammer, it sorted mine out for a while lol
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