Lowered Cars

[matt077]

hi all

fitted my new tracking rod arms today then took to a garage to have the tracking done

went to my local tyre sales to find i couldnt get the car on the ram as its too low, so i went to other garage, after driving around for a hour and been to 5 garages, i ended up going to one to find they was not too busy and they could do it, but again the car was too low and couldnt get on the ram, after 40mins of tring they got it on

how many other people have this problem? i've had lowwed cars before but never had problems before, the car is lowwed on gmax springs and shocks, before it was just springs and had no problems with them

[carl747]

Yup always a fun day lol

[matt077]

Yup always a fun day lol

telling me, swaped the track rod arms with in a hour so though i was onto a good day lol

[munky]

if your car is too low to get onto the ramps at an mot test center, its a fail iirc.

[matt077]

if your car is too low to get onto the ramps at an mot test center, its a fail iirc.

matt077 fail

[MarkCoupe]

Only once, coilovers or flush-floor ramps ftmfw

[munky]

if your car is too low to get onto the ramps at an mot test center, its a fail iirc.

matt077 fail

Only once, coilovers or flush-floor ramps ftmfw

All is not lost, as mark says... some mot places (generally ones with more modern equipment) have flush ramps.

And contrary to popular belief, its only the ramps that count, if it wont go onto the brake rollers its not a fail.

A good garage will have a fancy accelerometer dooberry that they can use for the brake test. Just involves them taking the car for a little spin.

[matt077]

i know mate, but i had problems today going over speed bumps too lol

dont get me wrong, the car sicks to the road like glue but think i go over tt this time, i see how i go

[bjrespect]

i had my first coupe on chopped springs and got stuck on loads of things

[Din]

A good garage will have a fancy accelerometer dooberry that they can use for the brake test. Just involves them taking the car for a little spin.

The decelerometer test, although tbh most cars will go in the rollers, ive just about got a porsche 911gt2 in the rollers last month, but the bumper was a nats from the ground.

[Roverdose214]

Chopped springs = +



Was funny tho watching him get stuck on college ramps

[james26386]

I know my car is low, but previous experience of garages is that they have a few blocks of wood to act as a ramp to get onto the ramp??

[rover220]

When I had my 220 I had to remove the bumper in hi-q's car park so I could get the tracking done as it wouldn't go on the ramps

[shen]

On another note, I can see why you'd have it lowered that much, as you're often likely to push the absolute limits of it's handling capability as a daily drive.

[Cableguy]

My tester always uses flush floor ramps and doesnt put it on the brake tester.

Tracking place is the same , luckily.

[matt077]

I know my car is low, but previous experience of garages is that they have a few blocks of wood to act as a ramp to get onto the ramp??

he had half a tree, the tracking plates which fit under the front wheels and aload of other bits but still wouldnt go on

On another note, I can see why you'd have it lowered that much, as you're often likely to push the absolute limits of it's handling capability as a daily drive.

luk lik race car enit

i didnt think it go that low mate, going over the big brigde at silverstone yesterday was kinda close call

My tester always uses flush floor ramps and doesnt put it on the brake tester.

Tracking place is the same , luckily.

my mot does too but they dont do tracking so i was fooked lol

[brad]

place i use has ramp exstentions to get on and off ramps works a treat

[Stealth213S]

On another note, I can see why you'd have it lowered that much, as you're often likely to push the absolute limits of it's handling capability as a daily drive.

Some people just like a stiff ride

[Roverdose214]

Some people just like a stiff ride

[Steve220]

With both my evo's, they reversed the car on, never had a problem.

When i had the tracking done, they used flush mounts

[Cableguy]

With both my evo's, they reversed the car on, never had a problem.

When i had the tracking done, they used flush mounts

Same place i use, Addison in Tipton. They arent quite flush but they do the job for most things.

[shen]

On another note, I can see why you'd have it lowered that much, as you're often likely to push the absolute limits of it's handling capability as a daily drive.

Some people just like a stiff ride

haha nice one

[ttrw2]

if your car is too low to get onto the ramps at an mot test center, its a fail iirc.

I'm not 100% on that TBH - pretty sure an MOT station can't fail a car because their equipment is insufficient to test your car. There's no requirement in law/MOT to meet a certain ramp angle.....

Be interested to find out the answer for sure.

[Steve220]

With both my evo's, they reversed the car on, never had a problem.

When i had the tracking done, they used flush mounts

Same place i use, Addison in Tipton. They arent quite flush but they do the job for most things.

Aye, and i'll never use them again. Total monkeys and the ramps aren't even level.

[Cableguy]

With both my evo's, they reversed the car on, never had a problem.

When i had the tracking done, they used flush mounts

Same place i use, Addison in Tipton. They arent quite flush but they do the job for most things.

Aye, and i'll never use them again. Total monkeys and the ramps aren't even level.

Monkeys why dude ?

Always bee ok to me.

[munky]

if your car is too low to get onto the ramps at an mot test center, its a fail iirc.

I'm not 100% on that TBH - pretty sure an MOT station can't fail a car because their equipment is insufficient to test your car. There's no requirement in law/MOT to meet a certain ramp angle.....

Be interested to find out the answer for sure.

If they cant get it on the ramps, they cant do the majority of the mot test...

[Cableguy]

Theres a difference however between a fail and a "take a walk"

[munky]

depends on the generosity of the testers. I know of at least one case where they had done a few of the off ramp tests before they tried to get it on the ramp... because they couldnt get it on they issued a fail notice and charged him.

[Cableguy]

At which point i would have give them a big STFU and walked out tbh.

They should check they are capable of carrying out the entire test, a car thats too low isnt a fail , its not tested.

[Steve220]

They broke a ball joint as rather than using a second spanner on the joint's cast, they used the end throw of the joint to help loosen it as the swung off it. Then when they did the camber, they used a metal hammer on the tops of my suspension mounts where you adjust the rebound, bending them. I spent more on replacing parts they broke than on the geometry. What also made me angry is i took the car to RSE up in wales to do an overall check of the car and they said the geometry was way out. I did write a letter to Addison but they never replied. Instead i wrote a thread on the MLR and put off the midland evo community going there.

[Cableguy]

Yeah thats a bad experience alright.

Why didnt you mention any of this in the thread when you had the work done though ?

I only ever have tracking done and they always use two spanners, suppose it depends who does the work though as they do go through a few newcomers.

[Steve220]

Yeah thats a bad experience alright.

Why didnt you mention any of this in the thread when you had the work done though ?

I only ever have tracking done and they always use two spanners, suppose it depends who does the work though as they do go through a few newcomers.

Guess i was just happy at the time the geometry was done... even though i didn't realise it was still shite lol. We live and learn.