Engines : 2.5 KV6 v T16 Turbo

Jonny 5 · Post by **Jonny 5** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:35 pm

In the last year T16 have been running away in terms of power output.

We're seeing alot of T16's with near on 300bhp now.

Grant620 · Post by **Grant620** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:15 pm

Jonny 5 wrote:In the last year T16 have been running away in terms of power output.

We're seeing alot of T16's with near on 300bhp now.

300+ at the hubs in fact.
Can't see a KV6 ever making that.

rover400turbo · Post by **rover400turbo** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:22 pm

Oh you got to love GT turbo's - its what has made it possible

Jonny 5 · Post by **Jonny 5** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:23 pm

Nah its people who stick with the OEM maifold and hence dont use T3/04e's

rover400turbo · Post by **rover400turbo** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:27 pm

Well you do want some sort of drivability left in the setup

Drew · Post by **Drew** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:26 pm

Stevo135+ wrote:I know the weight difference isnt massive between a KV6 and a T-series, but i wouldnt want to spoil a brilliant handling car, by putting a big iron lump in the front.

how would you spoil the handling? they weigh the same.

Drew

Jonny 5 · Post by **Jonny 5** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:34 pm

Maybe putting an LSD in 'spoils' handling as you get more torque steer ?

Sometimes i have no idea how people come up with some of the posts they make.

ChrisD · Post by **ChrisD** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:39 pm

I would prefer the Kv6 just to do something different.

Jonny 5 · Post by **Jonny 5** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:01 pm

Car tuning is a science not a fashion :roll:

ChrisD · Post by **ChrisD** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:15 pm

Hmm looks like I'm gonna have to twin turbo the kv6 somehow ;P

Jonny 5 · Post by **Jonny 5** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:29 pm

Sounds good to me :twisted:

tf_boy · Post by **tf_boy** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:59 pm

theres no reason for 300bhp at the hubs with a v6 imo....

I have no problem seeing of most cars and there does become a point where its to quick lol...
Althow i have the supercharger i dont feel its in full swing till 5k ish then its really feeling quick but with the charger on low down power has been improved SOOOOOOOO much its much more of a fun car to drive

and after owning both t16 and v6 etc the zs is a dam sight quicker than anything iv ever owned, Also you can beat the v6 growl, specialy with the supercharger whine

ross

ChrisD · Post by **ChrisD** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:01 pm

So when are you taking people for rides ?

tf_boy · Post by **tf_boy** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:07 pm

when ever

honest lol if im at any meet and anybody wants a spin give me a shout

Dave V6 · Post by **Dave V6** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 1:24 pm

id still go for a kv6 ,theres more to life than outright power and they can be made to make high power but just very expensive to do it,im sure rsm said he would have a s.c zs at or over 300 bhp any time soon,unfortunately i dont think kv6 tuning will ever be a massive thing as they dont make em anymore ,at least not in mg's anyhow.

whats the "tut tut not allowed" all about

is he banned here as well then :roll:

MGTurbo · Post by **MGTurbo** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:53 pm

Dave V6 wrote:

whats the "tut tut not allowed" all about is he banned here as well then

'He' has been banned here for years, in fact that is where all the trouble started, but then you wouldnt know about that, being a customer of his.

Steve220 · Post by **Steve220** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:18 pm

T16 has far more tuning capacity left in them

Waiting to see a 700bhp KV6

My engine's 3cc's larger than a T16 and its got almost 300bhp standard

goes to show what a good 2.0 turbo set up is capable of

Steve

C2K · Post by **C2K** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:20 pm

JA but that's all the little Japanese people squashed into each cyl to up the compression.

Steve220 · Post by **Steve220** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:27 pm

they've probably done something like that, or the ecu has a mind of its own

Anyway Si, get on messenger you knobber, i need to talk to you :lol:

tf_boy · Post by **tf_boy** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:16 am

MGTurbo wrote:
Dave V6 wrote:

whats the "tut tut not allowed" all about is he banned here as well then

'He' has been banned here for years, in fact that is where all the trouble started, but then you wouldnt know about that, being a customer of his.

HAHAHAAHAHAHAHA MGTurbo i think you need to reprase your comments about dave being a rsm customer lol...... OR find out exactly before throwing around comments like that.

Dave breen is a member of x power forum and Has not ever been to r s m, Infact dave has ventured into doing his own zs with cams, manifolds etc and makes good power from it and a decent pod time. So somwhat has disputes with r s m over who knows best......
Althow its usually friendly banter it still happens

I just thought you should know that as i should imagine dave will p1ss his pants with laughter when he reads this

Ross

Si · Post by Si » Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:24 am

Ah thought it was dave breen, we met up with him on the way back from pod once

Steve220 · Post by **Steve220** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:09 pm

the guy with the ZS?

tf_boy · Post by **tf_boy** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:26 pm

that will be him a zs hatch trophy blue iirc

Si · Post by Si » Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:27 pm

Steve220 wrote:the guy with the ZS?

Yeah

Dave V6 · Post by **Dave V6** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 8:46 pm

thought that 220 looked familiar ,followed you back from pod once till the speeds got high

i'm not one for speeding on the motorways normally.
My zs is a hatch but its x power grey.
That was pretty funny about me being a customer of rsm

ive never even seen the place,me and george have had our moments on the forums :roll:

mainly because i sometimes have doubted his claims and im not afraid to ask awkward questions but as far as i know were on speaking terms,i dont purposely fall out with him i just expect honesty.

Dave V6 · Post by **Dave V6** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 8:56 pm

was it one of you guys i raced at pod in october ,it was a blue 200 turbo coupe tuned to 240 bhp the driver said ,biggish chap about 35-40 ish maybe.
One of the best races ive ever had ,we got away dead together and were dead equal all the way ,infact just before the line we looked at each other and gave the thumbs up,i won by about o.oo4 or summat

MGTurbo · Post by **MGTurbo** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 9:03 pm

Dave V6 wrote:was it one of you guys i raced at pod in october ,it was a blue 200 turbo coupe tuned to 240 bhp the driver said ,biggish chap about 35-40 ish maybe.
One of the best races ive ever had ,we got away dead together and were dead equal all the way ,infact just before the line we looked at each other and gave the thumbs up,i won by about o.oo4 or summat

Could you narrow it down a bit more, a blue 220 turbo coupe could be anyone on here.

topgod6 · Post by **topgod6** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 9:16 pm

Well since most of the KV6 engine head gaskets ended up going on 800s kv6's I wouldnt see anyone fitting anything like a custom turbo unit because I couldnt see the head gasket lasting very long, as for newer MG's it might well be possible!

topgod6 · Post by **topgod6** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 9:25 pm

tf boy will the supercharger fit an 800 kv6? just wondering how far they modified the kv6

tf_boy · Post by **tf_boy** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 11:49 pm

erm, im not to sure,, it proberbly would mate but it was never designed for the 825 so its possible it wouldnt work properly or fit properly mate

Ross

Dave V6 · Post by **Dave V6** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 11:51 pm

MGTurbo wrote:
Dave V6 wrote:was it one of you guys i raced at pod in october ,it was a blue 200 turbo coupe tuned to 240 bhp the driver said ,biggish chap about 35-40 ish maybe.
One of the best races ive ever had ,we got away dead together and were dead equal all the way ,infact just before the line we looked at each other and gave the thumbs up,i won by about o.oo4 or summat

Could you narrow it down a bit more, a blue 220 turbo coupe could be anyone on here.

Sorry not really ,only thing i can add is we were just about to race and we had to reverse back out while they cleaned the track for an hour or 2 and this is when we got nattering,then we raced when they reopened the track.

tf_boy · Post by **tf_boy** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:15 am

Dave V6 wrote:
MGTurbo wrote:
Dave V6 wrote:was it one of you guys i raced at pod in october ,it was a blue 200 turbo coupe tuned to 240 bhp the driver said ,biggish chap about 35-40 ish maybe.
One of the best races ive ever had ,we got away dead together and were dead equal all the way ,infact just before the line we looked at each other and gave the thumbs up,i won by about o.oo4 or summat

Could you narrow it down a bit more, a blue 220 turbo coupe could be anyone on here.

Sorry not really ,only thing i can add is we were just about to race and we had to reverse back out while they cleaned the track for an hour or 2 and this is when we got nattering,then we raced when they reopened the track.

Dave tahiti blue coupe turbos are very rare round here, and you proberbly wont find the person on here.... lol

Steve220 · Post by **Steve220** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:23 am

it aint me. I'm short, skinny and in my 20's :mrgreen:

Ultimate Racer · Post by **Ultimate Racer** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:44 am

There is lots of potential in the KV6. Running NASP may i remind you, over 300bhp has been achieved. 10k rev limit in the 2.0k.

Sort the cooling out on the KV6 and it would be ok to turbo it.

Si · Post by Si » Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:00 am

Steve220 wrote:it aint me. I'm short, skinny and in my 20's

Nor did you have a coupe :wink: