Reviving a ti...

[zozzie_9t9]

If all goes to plan we should have a new car very soon... This leaves means the ti can step down from its role as main car.



The problem is that it isn't in the mint conidition that it once was - the wheel arches are starting to go despite regularly cleaning out the crap from behind them and having removed the rubber bits a long time ago The bonnet and driver's wing have suffered from someone climbing over them and leaving a whole selection of dents across both -



Another body issue is a group of stone chips above the windscreen which will need attention plus a little bubbling around the lock.



Finally a few things at the back don't quite line up as they should following the two knocks it's had -




Hopefully the back end will be sorted soon. Mechanically things aren't too good either - the gearbox will need sorting as it makes a few funny noises in the first three gears. CV's are knocking and the engine mounts are not in the best of shape. And the suspension isn't as sharp as it was.

Now, I'm not breaking the car! Even though it is worth more as spares. The plan is to sort it out, but with the smallest expenditure possible! And when it is, Mrs Zozzie says she might have it! I've not done anything major mechanically with cars, but I'm fine with tools and principles behind things - I think the mechanical engineering helps here! And work helps - graduate engineer on the railway - assiting to sort out track and things.

So how best to go about all this? Cos the look and 'Q Car-ness' still does it for me!

[Null_Byte]

A gearbox rebuild would be a good idea, I would suspect it is the dif bearings gone, but it is a simple enough task to rebuild.

Engine mounts I think are NLA but you should be able to source some half decent s/h ones.

CV joints won't be a lot to replace, or get some s/h driveshafts to save you time, I would replace the gaitors as a matter of course.

Which just leaves the bodywork. This is going to be by far the most expensive and most difficult thing to do. How handy are you at spraying and welding?

There are no panels available for the rear arch, so you will need to make them up and reweld new metal in, treatment of the remaining areas and a respray would sort the rest.

Respray is likely to be very expensive unless you can sort mates rates or are handy with the spray gun.

[zozzie_9t9]

Which just leaves the bodywork. This is going to be by far the most expensive and most difficult thing to do. How handy are you at spraying and welding?

There are no panels available for the rear arch, so you will need to make them up and reweld new metal in, treatment of the remaining areas and a respray would sort the rest.

Respray is likely to be very expensive unless you can sort mates rates or are handy with the spray gun.

I'll be getting money from my recent insurance claim which can go towards it - that's the reason for the rearend issues I think. I'm happy to spend money on the arches - our garage cured the rust on my previous 600's arches. Still sound after four years when I saw the car last and only cost me £250 at the time which didn't seem bad. For the other panels I'm wondering about seeing if I can find a non runner in silver with good body work and take the panels from that.

Only spraying I can do is an air brush to things like this -



Which reveals my other interests - used to paint models professionally before getting my current job. But not really the same as spraying cars!

[zozzie_9t9]

If all goes to plan we should have a new car very soon...

It's here

[David-Ti]

Which reveals my other interests - used to paint models professionally before getting my current job. But not really the same as spraying cars!

That looks so realistic. The used look just makes it look so true to life. Very impressive but then if you painted professionally its no suprise. I use to love making and painting models,but I dont make or keep them anymore.

Anyway, good luck with the Ti.

[MGJohn]

zozzie9t9

That superb detail on the English Electric Type 3 diesel electric locomotive model at first glance had me thinking it was a photo shop of a real locomotive superimposed on a length of model track. Exceptional skill to achieve that level of detailing ~ a true work of art!

As a teenager in the late 1950s-early 1960s I saw those Class 37s as they became known latterly being built. I was a keen railway enthusiast then and visited numerous railway works in the former green and pleasant. I worked in the City of London then and travelled up to Liverpool Street Station each weekday on a steam train! As each EE Type 3 left works brand new it was allocated to Stratford Motive Power depot in east London and used as a station pilot at Liverpool Street. They looked superb in their rich green, silver and cream livery and what a noise they made when their motors were opened up ... nice but, not quite as nice as their bigger brothers, the English Electric Type 4s and 5s .. the Deltics.

As each EE Type 3 completed its station pilot duties it went into service and was replaced by the next locomotive off the production line. Saw them all as I travelled up each day.

We had such a rich, wide and varied manufacturing base all over the country back then.... mostly long since gone or now alien owned or worse, both! Then those who we entrust to look after our Nation's interests decided we could survive shuffling paper containing bullshit values in the city .... yes, that's the way to go ... and go we did!

The short sightedness of those so called high flyers ensured only a big thump when they fell out of the sky ... and who will pick up the tab ... correct ... got it in one.

How come they could not see it coming when us lower flyers knew it was simply a matter of time decades ago.

By the way, that 620ti looks worth saving ... just take your time to ensure cost are kept reasonable ... move faster and it will be more costly so be patient ... that car looks worth it!

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[zozzie_9t9]

Thanks for the kind comments David and John

Off topic but here are a couple for you John!





And have a look here too - http://eastmoor.blogspot.com/2008/06/mo ... s-37s.html

Class 37s are my favourtie class of diesel loco - very versitile (sp?) locos and they sound great on full power!

Don't worry my ti will be sorted - I found a stunning low mileage V reg ti in british racing green. So the silver one can take a well earned rest and we can get it sorted. The main thing which worries me is rebuilding the 'box, as I've never tried anything like that before, but I think with help on the forums I should be able to at least attempt it, now there's no pressure to get things done quickly. The two things I want to achieve are to completely revive the car and to learn how to do as many things for myself as possible.

[Din]

Getting the box off is much harder than rebuilding it mate

On the train subject, check out the models we just saw at coate water in swindon

[XR219]

Best thing English Electric made had two fire breathing Rolls Royce Avons
.. and a big white beasty with two fire breathing Rolls Royce Olympus

[daibill]

Best thing English Electric made had two fire breathing Rolls Royce Avons
.. and a big white beasty with two fire breathing Rolls Royce Olympus

When I was a boy, I remember a lightening going low and slow over RAF St Athan at an open day then pulling vertical after lighting the afterburners. The ground shoock, Kids screemed, I think I cryed but i still remember it to this day, and of course seeing a vulcan do it's stuff.

Happy times.

[pantxxxxx]

i went down southend airport to see close up and inside a vulcan bomber a couple of months ago, a truely awsome sight and even better when they started the engines.

[David-Ti]

I will never forget the vulcan at cranfield performing almost vertical climbs from low altitude. Such an awesome rumble.

[XR219]

I will never forget the vulcan at cranfield performing almost vertical climbs from low altitude. Such an awesome rumble.

Exactly... the only other aircraft to have 4 Olympus was concorde... We make (made) the best cars and airplanes on earth... makes you proud to be British

[MGJohn]

Those models are superb! That 9F model reminds me.

Back in the 1950s, small schoolboy me used to 'bunk' ( trespass) onto the Midland Motive Power depot at Gloucester. It was a superb Railway depot long since destroyed. Fascinating places as was the ex-Great Westen depot only a few yards away.

Whilst being built, those new 9Fs would be used for running in duties down to Gloucester. Saw numerous examples all big, black, brand new and shiny. Looking closely at the driving ten close coupled driving wheels, five axles, the middle axle of the five sets had flangeLESS driving wheels ~ no doubt to allow working on tighter radius rails. Wish I had a camera back in those days ~ poverty stricken schoolboy with limited paper round finances would not extend to such luxuries.

One of the many advantages of being a bit of an aged old git is that I saw most of that stuff you all mention when I was younger. I saw the prototype Vulcan and Victor ( my favourite A-Bomber ) and at Brands Hatch for the F1 Grand Prix back in the 1960/70s, during the lunch interval between races the RAF would come over ~ Red Arrows most years but one year we were in for a treat. A few EE-Lightnings appeared over the natural ampitheatre which is the club circuit and stood those planes on their tails overhead and opened up the throttles .... awresome does not do it justice. And you could do 100mph legally after the event on the way home ~ the cops controlling traffic entering into the spirit of the occasion by using a handkerchief to 'start' the exit from the car parks at Brands. Great stuff ~ imagine that today ... no chance ...

We have not always been a namby-pamby Nation of BMW buyers ...

During my lunch break working in the city, I sometimes took my sandwiches onto the railway stations ~ saw all sorts of interesting stuff and there were both Express Steam and Diesel in those days. On Kings Cross one time, the superb Blue liveried prototype Deltic arrived with a train ~ fabulous sight ~ and the sight and sound those Deltics ( EE-Type 5s) made working hard up the inclines northbound out of Kings Cross I will never forget. There are one or two preserved so the youngsters of today can enjoy those experiences when they use them to again haul passengers on the main line.

Fabulous sights and sounds nearly all gorn forever.

Youngsters today ~ don't know theyze born .......
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[paul888]

We used to bunk onto lines near kentish town when we were kids , often getting very near deltics and 37's in action, amazing machines, used to make the ground shake when they started from standstill.

[MGJohn]

Kentish Town Roundhouse MPD ... Royal Scots, Jubilees, Patriots et al... been there did that many times.

Had a Triumph Motor Cycle back then... bought new .... could 'vist' all major MPDs in the Metrollops in a few hours. Some of those southern region MPDs with their live power rails were definitely 'iffy'....No namby-pamby speed limits back then.... That big white Roadsign Disc with the black diagonal really did mean no restrictions... Folks could get about sharpish .. so we did ...
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[zozzie_9t9]

OK, so soon we'll be sorting the silver ti out

All being well should have a few hundred quid (around £800 to start with) to spend on it and hopefully that should be enough to get it back to a nice standard. I'll be posting a list of wants soon!

Despite having looked at Beamers and Audis I still come back to the ti - why are they so addictive?!

Those models are superb! That 9F model reminds me.

I have a smaller version on my workbench at the moment

[C2K]

Best thing English Electric made was the steam turbines. :p

TBH Class 66 ftw. ;P

[zozzie_9t9]

Just an update - my ti should hopefully be revived soon having been declared SORN for the last few months. We'll be looking to sort with as little expediature as we can, so I'll be looking for any parts and things we made need on here - not to mention advice! We'd like it sorted as we have a big event due any time soon!

TBH Class 66 ftw. ;P

No, class 60 for shear effortless power

[crazygary]

Glad to hear your spending some money on the ti, silver is definately the best colour too

[Vard66]

Just an update - my ti should hopefully be revived soon having been declared SORN for the last few months. We'll be looking to sort with as little expediature as we can, so I'll be looking for any parts and things we made need on here - not to mention advice! We'd like it sorted as we have a big event due any time soon!

TBH Class 66 ftw. ;P

No, class 60 for shear effortless power

I found and forwarded the receipt for that clutch you bought form me a fair while back, the other day James.

I presumed you hadn't changed your address.

[Din]

Congrats on the big event mate ...... to give you a clue, the worst part is the first three months, purley because the child has no idea about daytime and nightime
(well thats what i found the difficult bit) It gets better after that, having said that my youngest (10 months) has acute bronchites so he is misserable

Regards to the Ti, if you suddenly find that you have no time...... or funds then dibs

[zozzie_9t9]

Din, you can't have it so

Hopefully things will start coming together soon - just waiting for the insurers to pull their finger out to sort out payment. Want to get it things sorted as soon as I can. Recent news mean there's no chance I can two cars