gsi tubby trackday accident (pic's now up)

[weejoeturbo]

at a track day yesterday (3/6/06) i had my gsi turbo out for the first time.

Now this was my first time driving the car in anger .

the engine gearbox and clutch held up very well.

but the brakes didnt.

on my second run out on lap 5 i had mass brake failure coming into a tite rite then left.

i had to try and take the cornor because there was a camera man sanding rite on the run off,

so what happen next well lets just say it wont polish out.

list

needs

new front bumper and impact bar

drivers side front wing

new rad

head light / indecator

and it need pulled out, pushed the wheel back 3 fingers about 2" and bent the inner wing in at the front and out at the back. eg the driveshaft is resting on the rear cross member.


so heres my thoughts on the whole thing.

never track day with standard brakes on rover turbo's


sorry bought the size .

[rnash2002]

Not good mate

[TurboMG]

Sounds like a write off....

[tf_boy]

track days arnt for anger'd driving mate

[BlueRover]

Sorry, but did you say there was a cameraman standing in the run off area?

I'd have run over the stupid git for standing in such a stupid place. Run off areas are there to protect cars and drivers from harm, not to stand in to take pictures. Bit like those spectators who stand on the outside of corners on rallies, to$$ers. Deserve all they get.

[Sean21]

I've tracked a turbo on standard brakes.

You say you were on lap 5, I would get 4 MAX, so surely you would have felt them giving in??

Bad luck anyway.

[weejoeturbo]

I've tracked a turbo on standard brakes.

You say you were on lap 5, I would get 4 MAX, so surely you would have felt them giving in??

Bad luck anyway.

they started to feel funny on lap 3 were useally out for 7 or 8 laps so i did 2 slow laps to let them cool then spead up again and on the fifth they failed.

other point the brake fuild when i got the car home was jet black

[Beaker]

Shame it looked like a really nice car when it was on ebay. Sounds like scrap fodder now if the inner wing is bent.

[weejoeturbo]

Shame it looked like a really nice car when it was on ebay. Sounds like scrap fodder now if the inner wing is bent.

its fixable i am tryn to get pictures up at the min.

[bjrespect]

unlucky mate

[weejoeturbo]

i have an onboard vid aswell but it on VHS will try and get it on aswell

[bjrespect]

that camera man should be shot

[weejoeturbo]

that camera man should be shot

the guy that took the photo's was my mate curtis who i had to swear to miss

if you look at 1 of the pic's it looks like i am still trying to turn right but am not i trying to miss him

all because of cooked brakes

[southside]

Not bein funny mate but it was a rare car in the first place so why turn it into a track car? especially for your first one. If your a novis start off in something smaller and non turbo i.e 205/metro gti fiesta xr2 e.t.c. Or atleast if you wanted the power pick a coupe turbo theres thousands of them about. its obvious accidents are gonna happen on a first run. Just my 2 cents worth anyway

[weejoeturbo]

Not bein funny mate but it was a rare car in the first place so why turn it into a track car? especially for your first one. If your a novis start off in something smaller and non turbo i.e 205/metro gti fiesta xr2 e.t.c. Or atleast if you wanted the power pick a coupe turbo theres thousands of them about. its obvious accidents are gonna happen on a first run. Just my 2 cents worth anyway

i turned it into a trackday car because the body work wasn't good and it didnt have its original engine.

as for using it as a track day car i use to use my road going coupe as a track day car, and my 214 x2 and an astra and a 106 gti. but never had the break fail on any of them.

so its not my first one

the only reason i crash wash the break on the 220 craped them selfs

anywhy enough hand baging it will be as good as new in no time.

[xr4x4]

where does it say its a track car...?

its just a track day.. lots of people do it..

[weejoeturbo]

where does it say its a track car...?

its just a track day.. lots of people do it..

he probibly thinks that because there a full cage, 6 point harnesses.. etc.. in the car but it is tax'd and mot'd.

[Grant620]

Looks like you kept braking even when the car started sliding...

[calibrax]

This photo says it all... I wouldn't be happy attending a track day where the organisers can't control access to the track (allowing people to stand on run off areas... wtf?!), and also having placed what look like randomly scattered tyres on a run off area. If it wasn't for those two things, you could have simply cut the corner and maybe the car would still be in one piece...

[weejoeturbo]

Looks like you kept braking even when the car started sliding...

the car never accutally slide or lock'd up

as i have said above i had to sweve to aviod a camera man and didnt have enough room to correct and the other side.

[weejoeturbo]

This photo says it all... I wouldn't be happy attending a track day where the organisers can't control access to the track (allowing people to stand on run off areas... wtf?!), and also having placed what look like randomly scattered tyres on a run off area. If it wasn't for those two things, you could have simply cut the corner and maybe the car would still be in one piece...

thank you someone understand were im coming from.

[220Si]

This photo says it all... I wouldn't be happy attending a track day where the organisers can't control access to the track (allowing people to stand on run off areas... wtf?!), and also having placed what look like randomly scattered tyres on a run off area. If it wasn't for those two things, you could have simply cut the corner and maybe the car would still be in one piece...

I total agree.....what are scattered tyres gonna do? for you to run over? similar chicane at Castle Combe and you can run off on to grass.

I think it'll be fixable Joe so don't get put down. make sure you check all flitches and welds underneath. Then more trackdays

[SubCat001]

Bad luck mate . Sounds repairable if you've got the skills though. Also the track looks horriable!!!! It looks as though its designed to kill cars.

On another subject have you got any pics of the cage?? Is that the one you fabbed up?

[weejoeturbo]

On another subject have you got any pics of the cage?? Is that the one you fabbed up?

i will get somemore pic up before the end of today.

the track is very tuff they used to use it as part of a rally cross ciruit

[Beaker]

i turned it into a trackday car because the body work wasn't good and it didnt have its original engine.

Still not following that argument myself.....

I agree with Southside, but there just isn't enough of an enthusiast following to save them all from people who don't see them as anything special and are just a cheap banger to have fun in. The same with the Maestro enthusiast following. So can't complain really

[weejoeturbo]

dont get me worng when you think its going to be on the track all the time its only on the track this year because i cant afford the insurance on the car.

and trackdaying is a good why to figure out what wrong with a car in my case the brakes.

and i do no what the car is its a gsi turbo's import. it does have the square rear pannel because the boy i got the car off of throught it out.

it doesnt have the extened arches because they were on the coupe

but she does have alot of jap writing.

i do respect the GSi-T but dont have the money to restore her.

[Tocca]

That pic shows to me that your on the brakes, should have tried to come off the brakes and turn there! Worth a go :p Bad luck with the car. Ah well, one less GSI Tubby on the road!

[zozzie_9t9]

but there just isn't enough of an enthusiast following to save them all from people who don't see them as anything special and are just a cheap banger to have fun in.

I reckon you get this with a lot cars - there's a time in between cars being new and viewed as desirable by the masses and them becoming classic type vehicles. Most of the cars on here have a good few years to go before reaching the latter state...

[Scott]

Give the guy a break!

cant afford to insure it, he's still an enthusiast, and still getting it out on the track?!

my 820 isnt on the road, not insured or ready to go or anything, perhaps i should leave now!?

[weejoeturbo]

That pic shows to me that your on the brakes, should have tried to come off the brakes and turn there! Worth a go :p Bad luck with the car. Ah well, one less GSI Tubby on the road!

may look that way but i can assure you the pedal went straight to the floor

and most of that leen is me sweving.

[Tocca]

That pic shows to me that your on the brakes, should have tried to come off the brakes and turn there! Worth a go :p Bad luck with the car. Ah well, one less GSI Tubby on the road!

may look that way but i can assure you the pedal went straight to the floor

and most of that leen is me sweving.

Ah sorry mate, wasnt saying you were lying about the brakes, just saying you shouldnt have been braking there at all, should have come off the gas tbh! But without seeing the track etc its hard to say! Plus with a few more track days youll know how to sort these problems out Goo dluck fixing it mate! Im thinking about turning my GSI tubby into a track day car!

[DaveR]

So the fluid boiled?
Shame if thats the case as that should have been changed before the track day and would have cost peanuts.

Now there is expensive damage, sorry to see that mate

[Cableguy]

it doesnt have the extened arches because they were on the coupe

but she does have alot of jap writing.

They were fitted to the hatch too mate , ryans has them.

[weejoeturbo]

it doesnt have the extened arches because they were on the coupe

but she does have alot of jap writing.

They were fitted to the hatch too mate , ryans has them.

my bad i was told they didnt have them

[Si]

So the fluid boiled?
Shame if thats the case as that should have been changed before the track day and would have cost peanuts.

Now there is expensive damage, sorry to see that mate

Still would boil.

I boil dot 5.1 on the track