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Boo, broke down on the M61, outside lane going along about 80ish and heard a noise similar to running over stones. Thought it was funny as i didnt see anything, but it went away so thought all was good, 10 seconds later, same thing followed by the battery light coming on...

Uh oh was my first thinking, pulled over to the inside lane and started thinking about what could have gone, my guess was alternator belt. Was considering if i could carry on driving like this as i was most of the way home, but then noticed the temperature start to creep up.

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The junction was just around the corner so thought about trying to make it but decided to coast to a halt before it instead of risking any damage!

Bonnet up quick and i see that the belts shredded completely and it seems to be leaking coolant from somewhere.

Some swearing later, AA call out, 90 min wait in the fecking freezing! Good thing i had a big coat and gloves and hat in the car!

Get told i only have roadside assistance, which is pretty useless since i told them on the phone what the fault was, and they could take me 10 miles. I guessed at it being about 12 to my house, the guy phoned up his boss, then stuck my post code in tomtom, came out as shortest route to be 10.4! :) So i got a lift all the way home.

Radiator looks to be leaking a little by the bottom left corner as you look at it from the front, and then also a little in the bottom left quarter, near one set of fins. Topped the coolant up and drove it onto my drive (Had a 1/4" set, 4L of coolant and 2L of oil in the car). But theres no PAS or anything now so was REALLY heavy (heavier than non assisted steering i swear!)

Anything likely to be broken, or think i can get away with a new belt and replacement radiator?
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Post by Scott »

well, if the system overheated/overpressurised, and now the rad is leaking, its likely other pipes might be damaged also...

Also, without sounding overly bad about it, the HG could have gone cos the head is warped, and cooling system pressurised, and thats what has split the rad... But thats worst case...

Obviously get the battery on chrage , itll die in this weather quite quickly if its flat.

otherwise, just stick on a new belt (easy peasy), and hope for the best...
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Post by Fordimus Prime »

If youve got a leaky rad, how come theres no pas fluid? Actually, thinking about it, if the belt has gone= no pas pump, so im guessing fluid overheated and poured out the pas expansion tank.

Power steering racks can easily get damaged with no fluid in them, im afraid. Still, fill it up with fluid to see. If is still sounds horrible after a while, then the rack needs replacing.

I doubt any damage is done to the engine, if it didnt overheat much. Should just be a case of new belt and new rad (might be cheaper to get your recored)
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dude you numpty!

Is the rad leaking through impact? How hot did it get?
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Post by Berger »

Have a spare radiator, dunno if the PAS fluid is empty, i assumed it was driven by the same belt as the alternator, not like i really used the steering once the belt went, got onto the hard shoulder and turned it off. Then for all of 1 minute when i got home with no belt on.

The temperature didnt reach the top of the gauge, stopped before then, was about 3/4 of the way up.
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Post by Scott »

might be lucky.... but with no flow from the pump, then the dial isnt a true indication of the coolant temp...

does teh car still start up and not sound ropey at all? if so, youve been lucky... pay attention to the expansion tank, with the top off, for any strange movements in the first 10 seconds after startup (you can run it fine for 30secs with no pump, aslong as coolant is in there)
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Post by C2K »

PAS is integral with the water pump isn't it? I can't exactly look here. :P

Get a belt on, and with good coolant level see what happens when it fires up.
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Post by Berger »

Scott wrote:might be lucky.... but with no flow from the pump, then the dial isnt a true indication of the coolant temp...

does teh car still start up and not sound ropey at all? if so, youve been lucky... pay attention to the expansion tank, with the top off, for any strange movements in the first 10 seconds after startup (you can run it fine for 30secs with no pump, aslong as coolant is in there)
Started up fine first time and sounded alright, but was trying to be quick about getting it on the drive!
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Post by agw_01 »

Karl, don't run it without the alty belt.

That belt runs the PAS and water pump, so with no belt there, the water isn't circulating.
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Post by Berger »

Changed the belt this morning and seems to be A-OK!

Drove it made sure it warmed up and didnt overheat. Seemed to be a little water evaporating from near the rad, guessing just wet from last night still as its not lost any from the expansion tank. :)
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Post by rover220 »

agw_01 wrote:Karl, don't run it without the alty belt.

That belt runs the PAS and water pump, so with no belt there, the water isn't circulating.
as scott says, you copuld run it for 30 secs to min with no pump on it.
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Post by Hughes_16 »

heavier than non assisted steering i swear!)
Thats because your fighting againsnt the fluid and pump etc...


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