Madeline McCanns parents: your views

inoxcrom1 · Post by **inoxcrom1** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:00 am

i agree with grant here, and i have also said this from day 1 nearly,

it all seams a bit iffy to me, i do hope im wrong but the dad is shifty.

and if it isnt the case then the parents are 100% to blame, i wouldnt leave my daughter anywhere else but by my side, at home or on holiday, i feel bad enough leaving her upstairs to go to sleep on her own.

shifty dad imo

victor3 · Post by **victor3** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:33 am

Yes, public opinion will change.

It's currently 'sorry for the parents, hope she's found, what must they be going through'.
Whether little 'un is found alive or dead, it will change to 'how could they have left her there, they are negligent and responsible indirectly for this'.

shen · Post by **shen** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:27 pm

share your views exactly...

the fact they are doctors is like they are beyond any blame...I guarantee if it was some council estate lass and her boyfriend the papers would have branded her a chav that shouldn't be allowed kids..the social worker would be round next day for the other 2.

also the fact that the hotel offered a baby sitting service .. nevermind having to go look for one.. and the two so poorly paid doctors perhaps couldn't afford it?

imho they need slapping silly for what they let happen to an innocent and so undeserving child of it all.

Post by **Punx0r** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:09 pm

Is Mr McCann definitely the genetic father? Might explain a few things if not.

Steve B · Post by **Steve B** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:24 pm

rich820coupe

Me and my missus feel exactly the same as you, the only person that I feel for is little Maddy, having a little boy around the same age really hits home of how she must be feeling (if still alive).

I was happy when the German reporter asked if they had anything to do with the disappearance, as I think they do. I was shocked at the British media the day following saying that question should never have been asked, FOR THE HELL WHY NOT.

I would never had left my little boy alone in his room, in fact I would never do it in our own home, let alone an apartment whilst on holiday, what inconvience is it to go for a meal with the children, it isn't hard I can assure you.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:42 pm

shen wrote: the fact they are doctors is like they are beyond any blame.......

Shipman was a respected Doctor........................

daz500 · Post by **daz500** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:43 pm

Apparently this was not the first time the youngsters were left alone. I heard a report that the family were with other professional type friends and this really makes me question the type of people who would find it acceptable to leave young children alone in an appartment in a foreign country.

Hopefully they find the person responsible for this though and then the parents can be punished via the courts.

Raistlin · Post by **Raistlin** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:55 pm

daz500 wrote:I heard a report that the family were with other professional type friends and this really makes me question the type of people who would find it acceptable to leave young children alone in an appartment in a foreign country.

Professional doesn't necessarily equate to irresponsible

daz500 · Post by **daz500** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:06 pm

By professional, I meant that they were likely to also be Doctors but I'm sure sure of their exact profession. If they were unemployed then I'm sure 'chavs' may have been used by the media.

victor3 · Post by **victor3** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:06 pm

Raistlin wrote:
daz500 wrote:I heard a report that the family were with other professional type friends and this really makes me question the type of people who would find it acceptable to leave young children alone in an appartment in a foreign country.
Professional doesn't necessarily equate to irresponsible

Yeah, look at Members of Parliament!

(Sorry, another cheap-shot at Tony and Da Boyz!!)

t220cat · Post by **t220cat** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:59 pm

Grant620 wrote:IMO - not the view of Rovertech...

She is dead - 100%
Her parents were negligant - 100%
Her parents SHOULD be prosecuted for this
I have a feeling the father knows more than he is letting on. Seems very "odd" to me.
You know when you hear about a boyfriend / girlfriend out together and one gets murdered? Then the living partner appears making an emotional appeal... And all along it was that partner that did the murder...?? I get that feeling from seeing the Dad.

As I said - all in my opinion.

spot on, exactly what i've been thinking since she wasn't found safe and well within a couple of days,
every parent i have spoke too about this subject said they would never ever in a million years leave there kids alone, especially in a forieghn country, and at the age they were,
also these are two middle age "professional" people, something just isn't quite right

: :!:

Chris200 · Post by **Chris200** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:24 am

I must agree with just about all the posts and comments on here, what they did was wrong in every way shape and form.

Just think, even if she had not have been taken, all it could of taken was for her to walk around and slip over on something, crack her head on the floor or a table and she wouldn't have been found for 20mins (as they said they kept checking on them) or so and could have died like that, the principle is the same, you don't leave your kids. There was baby sitting services and a cresh available, use them if you have too!!

I do empathise with the partens because they will have too live with it for the rest of their lives but I'm sorry I don't have any sympathy for them at all.

I give it 6 months or so befor it is all plastered over the papers that the parents have divorced or split up, and then it will all come out.

turboestate · Post by **turboestate** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:34 am

mach1rob wrote:I feel for Maddy, as to be taken away from your parents must be awful, especially when you're asleep, and I don't think I could bear to think what may have happened to her

I'm gut for poor maddy,

as a parent of a 5yr old and a 3yr old i feel heart wrenched everytime i think of what she might be going through.

I hope her parent's get strung up, poor maddy

majesticpower · Post by **majesticpower** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:53 am

I wonder how long untill the police dealing with this matter turn their attentions to the parents..

As mentioned, there is somthing i too find unerving about the parents. In a morbid way, it's as if they are enjoying the limelight abit too comfertably for my liking... Or so it appears, from the limited amount of footage i have seen of them..

MP.

C2K · Post by **C2K** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:48 am

Mark wrote:
shen wrote: the fact they are doctors is like they are beyond any blame.......

Shipman was a respected Doctor........................

He was a local to here too, evil son'beach.

rich820coupe · Post by **rich820coupe** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:05 pm

I do wonder if it had happened in the u.k whether police attention would of turned on her parents involvement by now as grant has said this happens alot in the u.k so the police tend to investigate those close to the victim quite quickly.

Another thing that pisses me off is at some point in the careers as doctors they will probably have had to make a decision on if other parents where looking after there children properly and if they should contact. social services

Post by **IrishRover** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:06 pm

A strange development in this case is that the mother is now a suspect and it says in the Wikipedia page for this case that

Having been formally interviewed by police in the presence of her lawyer Carlos Pinto de Abreu, during a meeting lasting some 11 hours beginning on 6 September 2007 and ending in the early hours of 7 September 2007. Kate McCann returned for further interview later that day and was formally declared a suspect (arguida) by the Portuguese police. On the same day, Justine McGuiness, a spokesman for the McCann family, reported that police had claimed to have found Madeleine's blood in the boot of a car rented by the parents 25 days after Madeleine's disappearance

C2K · Post by **C2K** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:15 pm

Not really a strange development, they never really showed enough grief for my liking.

mach1rob · Post by **mach1rob** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:17 pm

Ahh glad you brought this back up Colin, I knew there was something I had to do

I listened with interest to Jeremy Vine this lunchtime on Radio2, and I found myself agreeing more and more with the Portuguese journalist he had on!

I'm sorry, I don't agree with the family friend when he said they were doting parents, if that was the case, why leave the kids alone, and why refuse to use the in house baby sitting service that was on offer?

I think they're hiding something, and this jet setting around the world is just to try and put the police off the scent.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/vine/

click on Friday to listen again

dreaddan · Post by **dreaddan** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:32 pm

take what you read from wikipedia with a pinch of salt

mach1rob · Post by **mach1rob** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:34 pm

dreaddan wrote:take what you read from wikipedia with a pinch of salt

But the BBC were reporting that this morning so hardly just wiki

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6982969.stm

shen · Post by **shen** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:03 pm

'They believe they have evidence to show that in some way she's involved in the death of her daughter, which of course is completely ludicrous.'

So ridiculous that the silly slag and her retarded husband are 100% involved and resposible just by being such terrible parents.

Hope they rot to be quite honest

In a perfect world that child will now have been sold to a rich family who will give her all the love, attention and resposible parenting any child deserves.

PJW · Post by **PJW** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:59 pm

I listened in interest to sky news today, reporting the same story. The reported suggested that the parents had "perhaps given a drug or substance to the child to make them sleep while they were out"

Makes sense, theyre both in the medical profession and could get their hands on it, however surely they would know the right dose? They would however be almost superqualified in the disposal of a body and cleanup for forensic techniques.

Their close family member swore that they were with them for the whole time in this restaurant and they couldnt be responsible. But in the start, they said they were checking the kids every 15 minutes.

How shocking is it if they are involved? How much of a mug would you feel if you had genuinely donated to that fund?

I hope they get found out, locked up and someone put them out of their misery. Prison is too good for them if they are responsible.

rover220 · Post by **rover220** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:01 pm

they did it imo

richard moss · Post by **richard moss** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:15 pm

I said to my wife, back in may, that my money was on the parents.

The whole mega-search/email campaign/visits to the Vatican has all been a big smoke screen aimed at covering up what they did.

rover220 · Post by **rover220** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:15 pm

richard moss wrote:I said to my wife, back in may, that my money was on the parents.

The whole mega-search/email campaign/visits to the Vatican has all been a big smoke screen aimed at covering up what they did.

couldnt agrre more though id like to be proved wrong.

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:41 pm

anyone can say "yeah they did it" but the question is , why?!

someone put up whether or not it was his kid etc, that would make things more interesting... If they are both doctors, they are both not stupid, so must be a complex plot...

pinback2001 · Post by **pinback2001** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:53 pm

Just too cool calm and collected, right from the very beginning for my liking. Any normal parent would have been distraught!

mach1rob · Post by **mach1rob** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:56 pm

Scott wrote:anyone can say "yeah they did it" but the question is , why?!

someone put up whether or not it was his kid etc, that would make things more interesting... If they are both doctors, they are both not stupid, so must be a complex plot...

Why? Well could be any number of reasons, the main one I'm concerned about is why leave your children in a strange holiday apartment whilst you go off and enjoy yourself? Any decent parent wouldn't leave their kids like that, I know damn well I wouldn't!

It's been mentioned that maybe they administered some sort of drug to subdue them, maybe that went wrong, maybe she didn't want to be left alone and wouldn't settle, kids do that, and mum or dad struck out, maybe they don't have anything at all to do with it and someone did get in and take her, I'm sure it'll all come out eventually, indeed I hope sooner rather than later!

Just something doesn't quite add up in all this.

RobBBoi · Post by **RobBBoi** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:16 pm

pinback2001 wrote:Just too cool calm and collected, right from the very beginning for my liking. Any normal parent would have been distraught!

I agree.

Every photo I have seen the parents in doesn't look right. Their expressions are just too blank and empty. Even the interviews are too cool and relaxed!

Look at the difference between their emotions and the parents of that Rhys lad that has just been murdered! I know its not exactly the same situation but you would expect Madelines parents to show more emotion!

richard moss · Post by **richard moss** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:57 pm

Scott wrote:anyone can say "yeah they did it" but the question is , why?!

The most likely cause of death at the hands of a family member is usually a loss of temper. The person winds you up, you snap, lash out and boom.

Remember also that you are more likely to die at the hands of a "loved one" than a stranger.

dreaddan · Post by **dreaddan** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:29 pm

mach1rob wrote: But the BBC were reporting that this morning so hardly just wiki

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6982969.stm

But they say nothing of blood in a rented car.

richard moss · Post by **richard moss** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:58 pm

The BBC report mentions the blood in the second paragraph.

dreaddan · Post by **dreaddan** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:20 am

richard moss wrote:The BBC report mentions the blood in the second paragraph.

typical thats the 1 para I skipped!

edit: which leaves 1 question - why have the only changed the status of one of them?

Ross9 · Post by **Ross9** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:20 pm

caught this briefly on sky news that was on in the bar at a wedding last night and it said that both parents had now been made official suspects?

Not had a chance to turn on the telly or anything yet today though.

Ross