Stainless Braided Brake Lines (the sequel)

Null_Byte · Post by **Null_Byte** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:38 pm

Hello again.

Following the success of the previous RT group buy, I'd like to get the ball rolling for another group buy of these truly orgasmic stainless steel braided brake hoses.

Gratuitous pics of the kit:

Fitting is a joy, and I am using this very kit on my bubble (brakes and car not included

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For an excellent fitting guide see James's post here

These lines are the real deal. It even came with stainless fittings and washers.

Unlike other line kits, these have stainless ends as standard - this means that the ends will never rust and they will always come undone if you ever need to remove them. This also means you can swap them from car to car should you want, or sell them on later. They last forever.

In addition you can choose from any of the following colours for no extra cost (default is "clear") - Pictures above are "Clear Green"

Prices confirmed below (RRP is £69.00 on 4 line and £103.50 on 6 line)

Group buy prices for this year are as follows:

Kit	5 - 15 kits	Over 15 kits
4 Line Kit	£57.25	£54.00
6 Line Kit	£83.25	£80.00

Prices include postage, packing and delivery to your door by recorded camel.

The group buy will be handled by RT. Bank transfer, cheque or paypal accepted. If you are paying by paypal, either send the money as a gift or cover the charges!

Fittings!

If like me you are also renewing your brake pipes in copper at the same time, you may also want to consider brass or stainless line fittings to go with the kit:

Fitting	Material	Price (ea)
M10 Male Union (bundy nut)	Brass	£1.75
M10 Bleed Screw	Brass	£3.70
M10 Bleed Screw	Stainless	£2.20
3/16" Brake Hardline (25ft reel)	Copper	£15.10
3/16" Brake Hardline (25ft reel)	Copper Nickel	£19.50

(I've added in the prices for copper and copper nickel brake pipe, but I think you may find this cheaper on ebay or at your local motorfactors)

A picture for clarification

But wait, it gets better!

The group buy is based on kits, so it doesn't matter what model you have, or if you need a 6 or 4 line kit. All we need is 15+ names for the full discount or over 5 for partial discount.

Any rover or mg model qualifies for this group buy, and we may even be able to fit a couple of non rovers on as well.

Custom Lines

Custom lines also qualify as part of the group buy, but you would need to send me your old lines so they could be copied - I'm thinking especially of the 800 boys here as there wasn't a kit available for the 800 last time i checked.

Names below, state what vehicle you have and what kit you need. E.g. Null_Byte - 200 mk3 Rear drum - 4 line kit - Clear Green. Part kits should also be available, but check with me first so I can ask the supplier.

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mike88 · Post by **mike88** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:45 pm

If you remeber our PMs a while back Jon i'd like the 2 missing lines from this kit please. And i'd also like 4 of those nice stainless "caliper banjo bolts" if you could, and the washers to go with them. And 4 brass bleed nipples

Name - Car - Lines - Colour.
1. Mike88 - 620TI - 2 missing lines, Banjo bolts, washers, bleed nips - clear.

Null_Byte · Post by **Null_Byte** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:49 pm

Stainless calliper banjo bolts are included as part of the full kit, but as your ordering a part kit I'll see about getting them added in as well. I'll get you a price on the nipples.

98Ti · Post by **98Ti** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:05 am

Plz put me down for a 600ti 6-line kit in clear red. Also 4x SS nipples if possible.

Cheers
Matt

PS, sorry, I can't find copy n paste on my phone.

mike88 · Post by **mike88** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:17 am

Thanks Jon, I bought a SH-never fitted kit on here that came without any banjo bolts

edward22 · Post by **edward22** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:28 am

Name - Car - Lines - Colour.
1.edward22 -220 turbo coupe- 4 line kit - silver .
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stefaclese · Post by **stefaclese** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:34 am

Name - Car - Lines - Colour.
1.edward22 -220 turbo coupe- 4 line kit - silver .
2. stefaclese - 200 coupe rear disc/ABS - 4 line kit - clear blue - nipples too please

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vfr16v · Post by **vfr16v** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:37 am

Name - Car - Lines - Colour.
1.edward22 -220 turbo coupe- 4 line kit - silver .
2. stefaclese - 200 coupe rear disc/ABS - 4 line kit - clear blue - nipples too please

3. vfr16v - 216 MK3 rear drum - 4 line kit - clear red + s/s nipples for my 220 turbo coupe
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98Ti · Post by **98Ti** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:43 am

Name - Car - Lines - Colour.
1.edward22 -220 turbo coupe- 4 line kit - silver .
2. stefaclese - 200 coupe rear disc/ABS - 4 line kit - clear blue - nipples too please

3.vfr16v- 216 MK3 200 - rear drum - 4 line kit - clear - red
4.mike88 - 620ti -2 missing lines - clear
5.98ti - 620ti - 6 line kit - red clear (& 4x SS nipples)
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mike88 · Post by **mike88** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:45 am

Name - Car - Lines - Colour.
1.edward22 -220 turbo coupe- 4 line kit - silver .
2. stefaclese - 200 coupe rear disc/ABS - 4 line kit - clear blue - nipples too please

3.vfr16v- 216 MK3 200 - rear drum - 4 line kit - clear
4.mike88 - 620ti -2 missing lines, Banjo bolts, washers, bleed nips - clear
5.98ti - 620ti - 6 line kit - red clear (& 4x SS nipples)
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edward22 · Post by **edward22** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:47 am

sorry bud . i only skim the threads lol

98Ti · Post by **98Ti** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:48 am

Lol I kept u above me mike (errrm). Missed ya nips tho sorry bud.

vfr16v · Post by **vfr16v** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:58 am

Hi Jon,

How much for a set for my bike? Clear red please

Thanks,

Peter
(Honda VFR RC46)

(edited because my stupid mate posted this...)

vfr16v · Post by **vfr16v** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:13 pm

bump?

Stevo135+ · Post by **Stevo135+** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:40 pm

98Ti wrote:Name - Car - Lines - Colour.
1.edward22 -220 turbo coupe- 4 line kit - silver .
2. stefaclese - 200 coupe rear disc/ABS - 4 line kit - clear blue - nipples too please
3.vfr16v- 216 MK3 200 - rear drum - 4 line kit - clear - red
4.mike88 - 620ti -2 missing lines - clear
5.98ti - 620ti - 6 line kit - red clear (& 4x SS nipples)
5. Stevo135+ 1x 220 turbo coupe kit, clear coated lines.
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vfr16v · Post by **vfr16v** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:10 pm

Name - Car - Lines - Colour.
1.edward22 -220 turbo coupe- 4 line kit - silver .
2. stefaclese - 200 coupe rear disc/ABS - 4 line kit - clear blue - nipples too please

3.vfr16v- 216 MK3 200 - rear drum - 4 line kit - clear red - plus S/S nipples for my coupé
4.vfr16v - BRM - 4 line kit - orange
5.mike88 - 620ti -2 missing lines - clear
6.98ti - 620ti - 6 line kit - red clear (& 4x SS nipples)
7. Stevo135+ 1x 220 turbo coupe kit, clear coated lines.

1994 BRG Coupe · Post by **1994 BRG Coupe** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:24 pm

Name - Car - Lines - Colour.
1.edward22 -220 turbo coupe- 4 line kit - silver .
2. stefaclese - 200 coupe rear disc/ABS - 4 line kit - clear blue - nipples too please

3.vfr16v- 216 MK3 200 - rear drum - 4 line kit - clear red - plus S/S nipples for my coupé
4.vfr16v - BRM - 4 line kit - orange
5.mike88 - 620ti -2 missing lines - clear
6.98ti - 620ti - 6 line kit - red clear (& 4x SS nipples)
7. Stevo135+ 1x 220 turbo coupe kit, clear coated lines.
8. 1994 BRG Coupe - 200 coupe rear disc/ABS - 4 line kit - clear blue - Stainless steel nipples too please. Would need 6 as I have Brembo's on the front.

harkins77 · Post by **harkins77** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:25 am

Name - Car - Lines - Colour.
1.edward22 -220 turbo coupe- 4 line kit - silver .
2. stefaclese - 200 coupe rear disc/ABS - 4 line kit - clear blue - nipples too please

3.vfr16v- 216 MK3 200 - rear drum - 4 line kit - clear red - plus S/S nipples for my coupé
4.vfr16v - BRM - 4 line kit - orange
5.mike88 - 620ti -2 missing lines - clear
6.98ti - 620ti - 6 line kit - red clear (& 4x SS nipples)
7. Stevo135+ 1x 220 turbo coupe kit, clear coated lines.
8. 1994 BRG Coupe - 200 coupe rear disc/ABS - 4 line kit - clear blue - Stainless steel nipples too please. Would need 6 as I have Brembo's on the front.
9. harkins77 -1991 220 gti 4 line kit in red and nipples please

Null_Byte · Post by **Null_Byte** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:24 am

Right guys I have confirmed the prices in the original post - prices have gone up by a couple of quid and they are offering less discount on the 15+ number this year, but I'm not sure we will hit 15 kits anyway.

I've also contacted another supplier about the fittings, as the hose guys can only do the stainless nipples. The brass fittings and pipe come from another supplier, they did stainless hardware too but this was considerably more expensive from them.

There are two types of pipe available, copper is the normal stuff, copper nickel is much harder pipe which is more robust but a lot harder to bend to shape and flare. To be honest your local motorfactor should be able to supply either or you can get it off ebay which I think is going to work out cheaper than this guy - I only use him for the fittings myself - but if you want some its there.

You may want to check the prices and confirm/alter your order depending.

Mike your two line kit comes out at £31.50

Peter, I'll see about a bike kit as well but I did this for Vard last time and it was a bit awkward.

BRG Coupe, you may want to check and confirm the size/thread of the nipples on the Brembos, I've put the price there for the M10s which are the standard rover size, not sure if they are the same on the brembos.

Any other questions/requests just ask, I'll give it till next week to see if there is any more interest and then set a deadline for payments/ordering as we did last time.

Post by **Punx0r** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:23 am

Hey! I want some for my 800

This 6-line business, is that a 600 thing? I'm sure the 800 is only 4.

Are you going to make me supply a set of used hoses...?

Null_Byte · Post by **Null_Byte** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:30 pm

I'm pretty sure the 800 is a 4 line kit, but not having one I can't confirm. The 600 has two extra hoses that joint the trailing arms to the body.

They don't list a kit for the 800 so I would need to supply old hoses for them to copy, I looked into it last time and nobody could send a set and I couldn't really justify buying a set just to get them made up.

However I did check with them and they can make them up with the weird block thing that the 800s have as well. Apparently the goodridge kit doesn't fit properly with the ends not being long enough to meet the hardline - I also discussed this with them and they were of the opinion the wrong ends had been used and they could match the OE correctly if they had the part to go on.

So with that in mind the short answer is unfortunately, yes you need to supply the lines. Ideally if somebody is breaking an 800 or their car is not being used/ in project state it would be a good chance to whip them off and send them over. I could maybe negotiate a bit of discount on the finished kit for their trouble too either that or I'll cover the postage personally just for the sake of getting them made up. There wasn't that much interest from the 800 quarter last time I tried though.

mike88 · Post by **mike88** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:42 pm

Null_Byte wrote: Mike your two line kit comes out at £31.50

That with 4x stainless nipples and stainless banjos and copper washers?

Null_Byte · Post by **Null_Byte** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:26 pm

mike88 wrote:
Null_Byte wrote: Mike your two line kit comes out at £31.50

That with 4x stainless nipples and stainless banjos and copper washers?

That's the two hose kit + 4 banjos + washers + delivery.

Bleed nipples you have a choice prices in OP. 4x Stainless would cost £12.80

harkins77 · Post by **harkins77** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:43 pm

I'll take just the brake lines then in red without the nipples if that's alright.

Post by **Punx0r** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:14 pm

Let me see if I can get a set of standard hoses.

I'm pretty sure you're right about them being 4-line, as I remember years ago replacing a section of the hardpipe to the rear wheel on an 820 saloon and I (vaguely) recall joining it under the rear seat squab...

You're also right about the weird block thing, not sure what that's for...

jase · Post by **jase** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:46 pm

is it ok if I put myself down for just a pair of rears (not full set) for a ZR disc setup?
Ive already got braided fronts but never did the back

Ta
J

Post by **MarkCoupe** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:58 pm

Im potentially in , but id like to know the brand if thats possible ?

Null_Byte · Post by **Null_Byte** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:20 am

Hi Guys,

Last bump before we start closing the group buy.

Those of you already in, please check the list below and make sure I have you down right, as this will be the one I go from. Anybody else 100% in please put your name down individually and I will update this list.

I've tracked down a cheaper stainless nipple now so we can get them at around £2.20 per nipple, I've updated the main thread.

Jase I would think your kit would be around 29 quid roughly same price as Mikes but you don't need the extra banjos. What colour do you need?

Mark, the lines are made by Hel, they have a very respectable name in the biking world. I've fitted a set to my bubble and they are equally as good as goodridge IMO, plus they come with stainless banjos which are extra on the goodrridge.

I've added myself to the list potentially as one of the 600 needs new lines for the MOT, pending price on standard lines tomorrow this may well work out cheaper. Either way we are well over our five.

#	Name	Car	Front/Rear	Lines	Colour	Fittings	Paid
1	edward22	Mk2 200 coupe	Disc/Disc	4	Silver	-	No
2	stefaclese	Mk2 200 coupe	Disc/Disc	4	Clear Blue	4x Stainless Bleed	No
3	vfr16v	Mk3 216	Disc/Drum	4	Clear Red	4x Stainless Bleed	No
4	vfr16v	Mk3 200 (BRM)	Disc/Disc	4	Orange	-	No
5	mike88	620ti	MID LINES ONLY	2	Clear	-	No
6	98ti	620ti	Disc/Disc	6	Clear Red	4x Stainless Bleed	No
7	Stevo135	Mk2 200 coupe	Disc/Disc	4	Clear	-	No
8	1994 BRG Coupe	Mk2 200 coupe	Disc/Disc	4	Clear Blue	6x Stainless Bleed	No
9	harkins77	Mk2 220 gti	Disc/Disc	4	Red	4x Stainless Bleed	No
9	Jase	MG ZR	REAR LINES ONLY	2	Clear	-	No
10	Null Byte	620ti	Disc/Disc	6	Clear	10x Stainless Bleed	No

vfr16v · Post by **vfr16v** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:23 am

Hi Jon,
Any prices for the lines for my VFR?

@ Mark,
HEL is indeed good stuff.

harkins77 · Post by **harkins77** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:16 am

Can I just check that the 220 mk2 is the same as the mk1 as mine is the last if the mk1's I believe. Are the brakes the same between the two mks?

vfr16v · Post by **vfr16v** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:27 am

harkins77 wrote:Can I just check that the 220 mk2 is the same as the mk1 as mine is the last if the mk1's I believe. Are the brakes the same between the two mks?

True.

Post by **Punx0r** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:52 am

Can you keep this open for a few more days? I'm hoping to get a set of hoses from a scrap 800 at the weekend. There are a few people from 800.info also interested if an 800 kit can be sorted.

Null_Byte · Post by **Null_Byte** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:34 pm

harkins77 wrote:Can I just check that the 220 mk2 is the same as the mk1 as mine is the last if the mk1's I believe. Are the brakes the same between the two mks?

Mk2s were post 89 IIRC. They list for 91 - 92 for a "GTI Twincam" and a 92 - 93 for a "GTI". But as far as I know they were all the same, a 200 guru would be able to confirm. Yours has rear discs though?

Punx0r wrote:Can you keep this open for a few more days? I'm hoping to get a set of hoses from a scrap 800 at the weekend. There are a few people from 800.info also interested if an 800 kit can be sorted.

Sure thing, it would be good to get an 800 kit knocked up anyway, as at least it would be a template on file if anybody wanted them in the future. I'm just bumping it up as I'd like to close it fairly soon as I need a set myself

harkins77 · Post by **harkins77** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:28 pm

Null_Byte wrote:
harkins77 wrote:Can I just check that the 220 mk2 is the same as the mk1 as mine is the last if the mk1's I believe. Are the brakes the same between the two mks?
Mk2s were post 89 IIRC. They list for 91 - 92 for a "GTI Twincam" and a 92 - 93 for a "GTI". But as far as I know they were all the same, a 200 guru would be able to confirm. Yours has rear discs though?

Yeah mine has rear discs and is a 92 gti twincam one last of the m series engines edit

Limecat · Post by **Limecat** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:40 pm

I will go with a 4 line set for a '94 Metro in clear red if I may?

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