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216 honda mods

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are there any random bits from other cars that are simple bolt ons for it? like a cam or anything?


if has been asked a million times :sorry:
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Would help if you said if it is single cam or twin cam but there are not realy anything from other models.
There are cam's etc but they are aftermarket and expensive best starting with air filter exhaust/header.
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On the coupe I found the decat made a significant difference myself. The induction kit made it sound nice and all, but any increase in power feel would have been placebo I think, the decat actually made it quicker though.


A common mod on the accords now though is to fit a decent panel filter and use a dremel to remove all the ribs from the standard airbox, making a much smoother intake path with less pressure drop. Should work the same on the D16 as it's very similarly laid out.


Also, a socketed ECU with a tweaked map will unlock a few more bhp.

Plus the obvious, cat back etc, smooth well sized exhaust, back pressure is bad, just like all other cars.
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sound.

may have sounded like a complete noob there, im not, im pretty mechanically proficient.

i have a decat en route and agree induction kits are useless. i just wondered if there was any random oem bolt ons available for it. did forget to mention its the single cam honda. 216 sli.

is the honda ecu as awkward as the k series one? or can it be tweaked easier?
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honda ecu is a really easy one to chip, and chips are super easy to come by, just a word of warning dont go silly on the rev limits, go for a chip which is suited to the other mods you have, not some balls out racing chip, the honda engines dont like that unless modded to cope alongside.


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Hi mate
if its standard then dont even bother trying to chip it, i had mine chipped and you gain like minimal gains, that was put on a wideband to try and alter the mixture etc.Basically i was told that the pgmfi management is very good for a standard car with the usual bolt ons, the only real need on the chipping side is a turbo kit then you can start a low boost option for more power.
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High Compression pistons

You could always go high compression on super unleaded with a remap to suit, just need a decent panel filter and exhaust. Useful as it increases torque through the rev range too.
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TBH the best bet is to source a DOHC D16. They're about 15bhp more to start with and I believe they respond to the mods better. 150bhp+ is doable with exhaust, filter and remapped/socketed ECU.

There's always the SOHC mini-me conversion, bolting on a SOHC VTEC head too. This is documented on here somewhere IIRC but is fairly covered in SOHC civics too.
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I think i have seen some where might have been on the temple of vtec that a turbo kit is a really easy mod on the sohc vtec and god it does sound awesome on the clip i saw.

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Sheaf wrote:

There's always the SOHC mini-me conversion.
pardon my ignorance.....what is this?
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The mini-me conversion is where the SOHC engine has the head swapped to one of the SOHC VTEC heads from a Honda Civic. I think the highest power SOHC VTEC engine was 130PS, same as the DOHC D16.

Basically you change the head, ECU and wiring loom to get another 15bhp, which is easier than changing the whole engine for the same amount.
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Stealth213S wrote: Basically you change the head, ECU and wiring loom to get another 15bhp, which is easier than changing the whole engine for the same amount.
an engine swap would be easier and quicker than a head change.
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Plus IIRC you need a specific cam belt/tensioner setup as the SOHC non VTEC block + the SOHC VTEC head never came together from the factory, so the cambelt length is slightly different. Not sure if that's quite right or not, been aaaages since I read up about it, but I vaguely remember having a conversation with Lav, who had done it, about wierd length cambelts.

I think the DOHC engine swap is easier and produces a few more HP, however the mini-me is basically derived from the states where they had no (or atleast very few) DOHC D16 IIRC so modding the SOHC was much more common.
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Post by 2.2-600-VTEC »

The d16 dohc conversion is far far easier than swapping head and looms for the small amount of bhp, b16's are now coming cheaper if you were going down the whole wiring loom route.

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