Campaign to Reduce UK Petrol Prices

Chris200 · Post by **Chris200** » Tue May 25, 2004 2:07 pm

>Don't fill up at BP & ESSO.
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>We are going to hit close to 89p a litre by the summer. are petrol
>prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united action.
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>Philip Hollsworth offered this good idea:
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>This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy petrol on a certain day"
>campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just
>laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to hurt ourselves
>by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it
>was a problem for them.
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>BUT, whoever thought of this idea has come up with a plan that can
>really work. Please read it and join in!
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>Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to
>think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP at 77p -80p, we need to take
>aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace not
>sellers. With the price of petrol going up more each day, we consumers
>need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of
>petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not purchasing
>their Petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. Here's the
>idea:
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>For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two
>biggest oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP. If they are not
>selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If
>they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit.
>But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Esso and
>BP petrol buyers. It's really simple to do!! Now, don't whimp out on me
>at this point... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach
>millions of people! I am sending this note to a; lot of people. If each
>of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300
>send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the
>time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have
>reached over THREE
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>MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and pass this on
>to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If
>it goes one level further, you guessed it... .. THREE HUNDRED MILLION
>PEOPLE!!! Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's
>all.(and not buy at ESSO/BP) How long would all that take? If each of us
>sends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all
>300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8
>days!!! I'll bet you didn't think you and I had that much potential, did
>you! Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to
>you, please pass this message on. PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR
>PRICES TO THE 69p a LITRE RANGE
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>Action:
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>It's easy to make this happen. Just forward this email, and buy your
>petrol at Shell, Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons (75p) Jet etc. i.e.
>boycott BP and Esso.

mabz · Post by **mabz** » Tue May 25, 2004 3:17 pm

Great idea! Might work

M@Bz

MGTurbo · Post by **MGTurbo** » Tue May 25, 2004 3:25 pm

Be nice to think it would work... i fill up at Tescos because its the cheapest anyway.

Gareth

mabz · Post by **mabz** » Tue May 25, 2004 3:29 pm

I fill up BP ultimate all the time in the 6! Wherever in the coupe, but mainly BP too

M@Bz

Bubble Turbo · Post by **Bubble Turbo** » Tue May 25, 2004 3:30 pm

Who do you think the supermarkets buy their petrol off?? :idea:

silly idea that aint gona make the slightest difference on price on the forecourts if 70% of it is tax

Chris200 · Post by **Chris200** » Tue May 25, 2004 3:32 pm

Good point but Esso did say they made some silly profits last year of some like Â£2 billion....along with the rest of em as well

Bubble Turbo · Post by **Bubble Turbo** » Tue May 25, 2004 3:55 pm

Chris200 wrote:Good point but Esso did say they made some silly profits last year of some like Â£2 billion....along with the rest of em as well

They all make massive profits. very true...im a shareholder with BP so i don't have a problem with that. But the big money's in trading oil(which has an infinite amount of uses other than petrol)/fuels on the global and commercial markets. Forecourts sales are not a money spinner. Another reason why taking the suggested action is pointless.

Chris200 · Post by **Chris200** » Tue May 25, 2004 3:58 pm

Ahh well.....Still cheaper for me too buy Optimax down here the it is std unleaded from my Esso.....Safeway is even cheaper still....espically with 15p off every litre

Quiche81 · Post by **Quiche81** » Tue May 25, 2004 4:08 pm

A lot of these companies reported high profits, but mostly from 'other' methods
and not petroleum. I think the Tax needs to be hit more so than the companies that supply it. You only had to use that Fuel tax calculator that was
recently posted just to see where all the money goes..

Cabriolet214 · Post by **Cabriolet214** » Tue May 25, 2004 5:01 pm

I reckon we should just all get our cars, drive to Westminster and blockade the Houses of Parliament just before the start of summer recess. If the MPs can't get out of the building to go on their hols then it may strike the message home - or get us all locked up.........

Tallbloke · Post by **Tallbloke** » Tue May 25, 2004 5:40 pm

Cabriolet214 wrote:I reckon we should just all get our cars, drive to Westminster and blockade the Houses of Parliament just before the start of summer recess. If the MPs can't get out of the building to go on their hols then it may strike the message home - or get us all locked up.........

either way It'll get rovers more noticed :p

chris

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » Tue May 25, 2004 6:33 pm

I'm gonna join in - at the end of the day I think it's worth a try.

I don't think it's a silly idea at all - what annoys me is people who moan about things but don't join in when something is done to attempt to change it.

Even if it doesn't work - what inconvenience is it to the consumer to try this anyway ?

Quiche81 · Post by **Quiche81** » Tue May 25, 2004 6:47 pm

Lisa220 wrote:I'm gonna join in - at the end of the day I think it's worth a try.

I don't think it's a silly idea at all - what annoys me is people who moan about things but don't join in when something is done to attempt to change it.

Even if it doesn't work - what inconvenience is it to the consumer to try this anyway ?

You're correct, it's not silly. Even if such a protest was misdirected the point would
still be brought to the attention of the media, and therefor just about everyone else
including the goverment. Even when we had all that allmighty grief after
the refinery's were blockaded
the point certainly got stamped firmly home and the goverment eased off
with the usual increase in excise on petrol.
So it is worth doing !

mach1rob · Post by **mach1rob** » Tue May 25, 2004 7:43 pm

Nothing ventured, nothing gained

If something is not done soon, where will it all end? Â£1 a litre, Â£2??? Why should we pay more than nearly every other country in the world?? :evil:

Leo · Post by **Leo** » Tue May 25, 2004 7:45 pm

Surely its the government we need to hit, at 70%+ tax on fuel, that's why we pay so much.

Post by **IrishRover** » Tue May 25, 2004 8:21 pm

Petrol prices in Ireland have now risen by around 10 cents over the last week or so to 1 euro or more per litre. About a year ago or so, it was around 80 to 85 cents a litre.

Even at about a euro per litre, that's still cheaper than in the UK, but then we pay a lot more road tax than you guys. You might expect that we might have good roads though, but that's not the case. Only some of our potholes have bits of road around them. Our national roads authority actually wants to toll existing roads that were built with tax payers' money!

Did you hear about the Paddy Irish man who had to pay a toll on a road that was already paid for by his taxes?
That's it - no punchline.

Bubble Turbo · Post by **Bubble Turbo** » Tue May 25, 2004 8:45 pm

Leo wrote:Surely its the government we need to hit, at 70%+ tax on fuel, that's why we pay so much.

exactly why i described the action as silly.

The article is full of misinformation and misdirection. It's annoying to see articles like this that embellishes the truth and fool joe public.

The cost of petrol is made high by the amount of duty levied on it. Deduct the theasury's share and petrol would actually only be about 20p a litre. :!:

WayneH · Post by **WayneH** » Tue May 25, 2004 9:01 pm

I only use Shell Optimax anyway, so I will be joining in by default

Sheaf · Post by **Sheaf** » Tue May 25, 2004 9:42 pm

I got a pretty much identical message last year in an email. Didn't work then..
AT the end of the day the petrol companies actually make more profit from the stuff they sell with the petrol than from the actual petrol (that's what I heard somewhere anyway), so there's no point targetting them.
Also I dont think enough drivers would do this to make it worthwhile.. most people are just going to fill up wherever is the cheapest and most conveniant at the time.

However in theory it may well work.

Alex

fluke · Post by **fluke** » Tue May 25, 2004 9:57 pm

The petrol companies do not care...
The government needs to be hit...
70% tax...
Council Tax...
Petrol Tax...
Road Tax...
Insurance Purchase Tax...
Income Tax...
Congestion Charge...
Value Added Tax..
NOW
Toll Roads are just round the corner...
Not to mention all the other stealth taxes we don't all know about...
If they reduce the tax on petrol they will just put it on something else...
Think I will have to move abroad...

Quiche81 · Post by **Quiche81** » Tue May 25, 2004 10:12 pm

fluke wrote:The petrol companies do not care...
The government needs to be hit...
70% tax...
Council Tax...
Petrol Tax...
Road Tax...
Insurance Purchase Tax...
Income Tax...
Congestion Charge...
Value Added Tax..
NOW
Toll Roads are just round the corner...
Not to mention all the other stealth taxes we don't all know about...
If they reduce the tax on petrol they will just put it on something else...
Think I will have to move abroad...

24 Taxes on the person .. About 25 on bussinesses..

The Uk sucks for Tax

Martin · Post by **Martin** » Tue May 25, 2004 10:15 pm

fluke wrote:The petrol companies do not care...
The government needs to be hit...
70% tax...
Council Tax...
Petrol Tax...
Road Tax...
Insurance Purchase Tax...
Income Tax...
Congestion Charge...
Value Added Tax..
NOW
Toll Roads are just round the corner...
Not to mention all the other stealth taxes we don't all know about...
If they reduce the tax on petrol they will just put it on something else...
Think I will have to move abroad...

The Government also gain a lot of revenue in taxation of the oil when its first mined out of the North sea, etc. As already said, the price of oil per barrel fluctuates considerably, buying and selling barrels of oil is big business!

I don't know who supplies Safeway or Tesco, but I know BP supply Sainsburys, or at least they do around here.

fluke · Post by **fluke** » Tue May 25, 2004 10:27 pm

Here's the best one...
Pay tax on your earnings...
Save your taxed earnings and get paid interest on the said taxed earnings and get taxed on the interest...

Sheaf · Post by **Sheaf** » Tue May 25, 2004 10:54 pm

Then somebody dies and you pay tax on the money they left you.

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Martin · Post by **Martin** » Tue May 25, 2004 11:14 pm

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malcolm_durant · Post by **malcolm_durant** » Wed May 26, 2004 12:33 am

On a broadly similar theme (didn't get the badgers bit...perhaps I'm thick) was reading a discarded copy of the Times on the train on Monday and saw this:

[i]An unstable Iraq may loose a 'blood-dimmed tide'
By Gary Duncan

â€œTHINGS fall apart; the centre cannot hold.â€

Martin · Post by **Martin** » Wed May 26, 2004 2:13 am

malcolm_durant wrote:On a broadly similar theme (didn't get the badgers bit...perhaps I'm thick)

Hi Malcolm

No you ain't thick. Visit www.badgerbadgerbadger.com to find out what the f*ck we are on about :twisted:

CESSNA185 · Post by **CESSNA185** » Wed May 26, 2004 5:24 am

I wont say what the price of petrol is in New Zealand, I rather like Rovertech and I wouldn't like to be banned :twisted:

_tomcat_ · Post by **_tomcat_** » Wed May 26, 2004 8:16 am

i remember seeing this post last time the petrol was to high

not sure it worked then? most people just think its a crap chain letter and will make no differnce so dont bother.

i get petrol at esso as its most convineant for me i spend at least tenner a day there so if i stop im sure it will help pmsl. :wink:

cheers aj.

25IS · Post by **25IS** » Wed May 26, 2004 10:09 am

Doh just found this i posted the same thing we think its a good idea and worth a try.

Bubble Turbo · Post by **Bubble Turbo** » Wed May 26, 2004 11:08 am

25IS wrote:Doh just found this i posted the same thing we think its a good idea and worth a try.

why does it read a good idea?

It's alarming to think. If the public take so easily to such ill-information at face value then its no wonder that we get taken for mugs for petrol.

I understand the saying 'nothing ventured nothing gained' but this seems like people are genuinely arrogant to the problem and are now clutching at straws.

roverturbo · Post by **roverturbo** » Wed May 26, 2004 11:21 am

frst of all read my post in the other chaps topic....

In the 80's thatcher had the chance to own the oil refinerys in the North Sea. to supply us with cheap petrol she didnt though......wonder why .....

its called forward planning..... and more money off a tax instead.....

british people sponged it all in, remember that song youve got me dangling in on a string. we should stand outside no10 and sing that cuz as lisa said we all moan to each other but not the right person

Drew · Post by **Drew** » Wed May 26, 2004 1:31 pm

may be of interest to know how little the price of fuel actually is.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/wor ... 933648.stm

about 21p/litre for petrol. not bad, but that leaves 60p/litre going to the government!

i dont think the garages are to blame for the stupidly high price of fuel in the UK.

Drew
ps. go get yourselves an '04 R1. 0-60 in 3ish seconds, low 10sec 1/4. 48mpg last week

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Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » Wed May 26, 2004 10:17 pm

Hey I've noticed that this is getting a little touchy I think.

Either support it or don't, but don't comment on others opinions please as everyone is entitled to their own.

Cheers