Channel 4 Now. Btcc

southside · Post by **southside** » Sun May 14, 2006 3:19 pm

Rac team are still using MG's

sidepants · Post by **sidepants** » Sun May 14, 2006 3:21 pm

don't wanna seem like a tool but the BTCC is on ITV.

yeah, still using MG's. apparently they're happy with the car and performance so keeping it for the time being.

rover220 · Post by **rover220** » Sun May 14, 2006 3:22 pm

sidepants wrote:don't wanna seem like a tool but the BTCC is on ITV.

southside · Post by **southside** » Sun May 14, 2006 3:35 pm

Lol i forgot my channels were all messed up on my PcTv

BlueRover · Post by **BlueRover** » Sun May 14, 2006 5:20 pm

Go Turkington !!! BOSH !

sysdump · Post by **sysdump** » Sun May 14, 2006 7:01 pm

Bugger, missed it!

So how many cars did Rob Collard punt off this week!

Chris

bigfoot217 · Post by **bigfoot217** » Sun May 14, 2006 7:07 pm

What is the idea of the shape of the MG's bumpers?

Is it for cooling of the brakes?

WelshwarrioR25 · Post by **WelshwarrioR25** » Sun May 14, 2006 7:18 pm

It's all about aerodynamics. Functional not that pretty tho

Glyn

bigfoot217 · Post by **bigfoot217** » Sun May 14, 2006 7:19 pm

Thought it might be that but as none of the others have similar bumpers i wasn't convinced.

WelshwarrioR25 · Post by **WelshwarrioR25** » Sun May 14, 2006 7:21 pm

Looks little likr the old 406 ones if I remember correctly

Glyn

amillsuk · Post by **amillsuk** » Mon May 15, 2006 9:21 am

Aye, turkington seems like a decent driver, im always routing for the MG's

Also, there was a black 4 cylinder MG finished 10th or something? They had improved the engine and the guy driving was happy with the performance, it's nice to see MG's arent being tottaly wipped off the face of the earth

- A proud member of RAC

ti or not ti · Post by **ti or not ti** » Mon May 15, 2006 10:33 am

There are 3 MG's running 2 - RAC one privateer

Main differences are the RAC's run a 2.0L Judd engine rather than the 2.5V6 the black one uses.

The bodystyling is ment for aerodynamics and brake cooling.

Team Dynamics have a DC5 replica which has the aero kit on but no flat bottom, the thing is uncontrollable at high speed as the kit actually works but as no flat bottom on teh car it sends it everywhere!

HTH

BlueRover · Post by **BlueRover** » Mon May 15, 2006 11:31 am

ti or not ti wrote:There are 3 MG's running 2 - RAC one privateer

Main differences are the RAC's run a 2.0L Judd engine rather than the 2.5V6 the black one uses.

I thought the commentators mentioned that the black one had an improved 4 cylinder engine

The bodystyling is ment for aerodynamics and brake cooling.

HTH

That's why the MG is better at late braking and can defend corners very well. Altogether some brilliant racing. I am sure there are a couple more independant MG cars too.

John W · Post by **John W** » Mon May 15, 2006 1:18 pm

BlueRover wrote:
ti or not ti wrote:There are 3 MG's running 2 - RAC one privateer

Main differences are the RAC's run a 2.0L Judd engine rather than the 2.5V6 the black one uses.
I thought the commentators mentioned that the black one had an improved 4 cylinder engine.

They certainally did, I did find it a bit strange saying that the 4 cyl has more power though? What sort of spec is that 2.0l then (ie based on K series?)

-Alex- · Post by **-Alex-** » Mon May 15, 2006 1:39 pm

The black one was the 4cylinder job of Jason Hughes IIRC...

Not sure on the engine specs of the 4 cylinder but apparently has better "thermal dynamics" to nab a buzzword off commentator Ben Edwards. He didn't elaborate further than that.

The RAC MGs are running pretty well to be honest, right up there in power/traction and pretty much the best on the brakes.

God bless the BTCC!

If there is one guy I cant stand its Matt Neal. Thought he was a nice chap when he won in the privateer Primera but appears to be an utter t1t - IMO.

HA54SYM · Post by **HA54SYM** » Mon May 15, 2006 2:04 pm

No one can be more of a tit than Plato.

Dave

amillsuk · Post by **amillsuk** » Mon May 15, 2006 2:22 pm

HA54SYM wrote:No one can be more of a tit than Plato.

Dave

He helps present Fifth gear, nuff said!

ChrisD · Post by **ChrisD** » Mon May 15, 2006 4:34 pm

The 2 litre 4 cylinder is a k series prepared by judd or something I think around 275bhp.

The reason they swapped if I remember was that the rev limit in touring cars is 8500rpm and the kv6 needed to be revved further to get the power out of it. (It also weighs more).

Great bit of racing especially turkington managed to get from 17th to 5th in the last race.

BlueRover · Post by **BlueRover** » Tue May 16, 2006 12:20 pm

ChrisD wrote: Great bit of racing especially turkington managed to get from 17th to 5th in the last race.

As I said, Go Turkington....BOSH !

MGJohn · Post by **MGJohn** » Tue May 16, 2006 10:37 pm

ti or not ti wrote:There are 3 MG's running 2 - RAC one privateer

Main differences are the RAC's run a 2.0L Judd engine rather than the 2.5V6 the black one uses.

The bodystyling is ment for aerodynamics and brake cooling.

Team Dynamics have a DC5 replica which has the aero kit on but no flat bottom, the thing is uncontrollable at high speed as the kit actually works but as no flat bottom on teh car it sends it everywhere!

HTH

Don't think the 2.5 Litre KV6 would be allowed .... despite weight, those extra 500cc and two cylinders would be a distinct advantage. Some road going Rovers had a 2 litre V6 I seem to remember. I think the early factory KV6 MG ZS touring cars' power units were based on this ... but, could be wrong here.

The K2000 is a vastly race developed version of the 4 cylinder K series.

Considering the might of other participating outfits like GM, Honda and Seat-VW in present and past seasons, those MGs without factory support do quite well. Very well in fact.
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Liam Olf · Post by **Liam Olf** » Tue May 16, 2006 11:40 pm

Almost makes me feel guilty for being part of the AA...

Imran · Post by **Imran** » Wed May 17, 2006 10:47 am

HTH[/quote]

Don't think the 2.5 Litre KV6 would be allowed .... despite weight, those extra 500cc and two cylinders would be a distinct advantage. Some road going Rovers had a 2 litre V6 I seem to remember. I think the early factory KV6 MG ZS touring cars' power units were based on this ... but, could be wrong here.

The K2000 is a vastly race developed version of the 4 cylinder K series.

Considering the might of other participating outfits like GM, Honda and Seat-VW in present and past seasons, those MGs without factory support do quite well. Very well in fact.
.[/quote]

I am quite sure the KV6 was de-stroked to 2000cc. Regulations don't allow bigger capacities.
The Mondeo used a 2000cc V6 with great results... was one of the best touring cars......

Recon-Technician · Post by **Recon-Technician** » Wed May 17, 2006 6:19 pm

MGJohn wrote:
Don't think the 2.5 Litre KV6 would be allowed .... despite weight, those extra 500cc and two cylinders would be a distinct advantage. Some road going Rovers had a 2 litre V6 I seem to remember. I think the early factory KV6 MG ZS touring cars' power units were based on this ... but, could be wrong here.

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There is a 2L version of the KV6 that was used in the 75's and I persume the 45's. Was a nippy little engine in std tune, so I would guess it would have been excellent in race spec