Rolling road day.

mahatma · Post by **mahatma** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:57 pm

Clare wrote:Nah that should be fine, I'll just put you lower down the list.

Clare

OK, count me in then please (in a Metro).

thanks

andy

Clare · Post by **Clare** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:10 am

Running on the Rollers
Clare
Neil F
Andy R
Ti Rich
Keith Alexander
Rob D (DEViANCE)
GeraintUK
Skatiechik & E_T_V 220GTI Turbo.
banhambuilt
Swanny
Kes Beech
Carl (Passat 1.8T)
Jase
tomcat216
Mahatma (Andy)

Spectating
tonedef
AGW_01
Mr Vegas

Bowling
Clare
Neil F
Andy R
Tony and Den (Tonedef)
Keith Alexander and two small boys
GeraintUK
Skatiechik & E_T_V
banhambuilt
Jase & Christine

Mynheers_a_pint · Post by **Mynheers_a_pint** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:25 am

wouild of lvoed to go but unfortunatly neither of my cars are upto the journey at the moment. Have fun though!

Ti Rich · Post by **Ti Rich** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:05 pm

What time do we need to arrive?

I need a long time to get there in the derv.........

Clare · Post by **Clare** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:33 am

Well it starts at 9.30, what time would you prefer to be there? I know us locals can go on earlier so those travelling have a bit more time to get here if they want.

Also, I'm going to try and book the bowling today I'm planning to get 3 lanes hopefully, for probably 5.30 - 6pm I'll update when I've actually managed to sort something.

Clare

Ti Rich · Post by **Ti Rich** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:12 am

Thanks Clare

I will be there at 9:30 and would appreciate an early run too if possible as i need to get back and finish off some decorating!

Clare · Post by **Clare** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:57 am

ok, cool.

Does anyone else need any further information, directions etc?

Clare

GeraintUk · Post by **GeraintUk** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:06 am

is there a coffee machine on site....

me and a cold 9.30am without a brew would be a disaster

lol

andyr · Post by **andyr** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:52 pm

Quick update.

Clare has booked the bowling for 18:00

She has reserved 3 lanes for 18 people @ a cost of Â£9.75 Per person (includes 2 games of bowling)

Please don't forget to pay Clare for the bowling as she has paid for this out of her own pocket !

See you guy's and girls in the morning !

Andy

andyr · Post by **andyr** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:52 pm

Oh, and G

Bring a flask !

GeraintUk · Post by **GeraintUk** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:54 pm

andyr wrote:Oh, and G

Bring a flask !

well i guess it will match the rover image. I'll put it with my flat cap and slippers now

Ti Rich · Post by **Ti Rich** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:02 pm

I have a MG flask which i won, i'll fill that as a back up!

Keith Alexander · Post by **Keith Alexander** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:44 pm

Ah didn't realise the Bowling was an evening event for some daft reason I thought it was after lunch sorry, we have visitors coming so won't be able to attend but I will be at the Dyno test in the morning.

mahatma · Post by **mahatma** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 4:40 pm

Good day today, thanks a lot for organising it guys.

Andy

Post by **SubCat001** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 4:53 pm

So any results yet??

mahatma · Post by **mahatma** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:18 pm

Yep, quite interesting. Clare has all of the results to post up later / tomorrow. Most surprising thing for me was the filter socks were robbing me of 20bhp and 15lbft !!

Time to build an airbox this winter I think.

Clare · Post by **Clare** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:33 pm

Here are the results, there were couple of standard cars which made pretty much factory figures.

Clare - 206Bhp @ 6342 - 188lbs/ft @ 4966 - 220 Coupe Turbo
Neil - 163Bhp @ 3950 - 268lbs/ft @ 1908 - 2.0 Golf TDI
Andy R - 152Bhp @ 6756 - 131lbs/ft @ 4587 - BRM
Ti Rich - 151Bhp @ 3752 - 265lbs/ft @ 2146 - ZT - CDTi
Keith Alexander - 171Bhp @ 7234 - 152lbs/ft @ 4617 - ZT-T 190
Rob D - 117Bhp @ 5644 - 150lbs/ft @ 2736 - ZS - Diesel
Geraint - 240Bhp @ 4784 - 284lbs/ft @ 4163 - ZT - 260
Skatiechic & E_T_V - 173Bhp @ 5912 - 174lbs/ft @ 4616 - 220 Gti - Turbo
Swanny - 172Bhp @ 8159 - 115lbs/ft @ 6392 - Civic 1.6 Vti
Kes Beech - 143Bhp @ 3445 - 264lbs/ft @ 2166 - Civic 2.2 CDTi
Carl - 182bhp @ 6299 - 190lbs/ft @ 3854 - VW Passat 1.8 T
Jase - 263Bhp @ 6480 - 243lbs/ft @ 5063 - Mk3 214
Tomcat216 - 119Bhp @ 7159 - 94lbs/ft @ 4257 - Coupe 216K
Mahatma - 184Bhp @ 6538 - 155lbs/ft @ 5722 - Metro 1.8K
Ian K - 194Bhp @ 7653 - 140lbs/ft @ 6925 - Honda Prelude 2.2 Vtec

Cheers
Clare, off for the bowling part now

Grant620 · Post by **Grant620** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:31 pm

Nice result there for AndyR...
Did Neil buy the drinks then?

DEViANCE · Post by **DEViANCE** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:48 pm

discovered that my results dont really mean much as they didnt get the right rpm signal or somthing.
Shame really but i enjoyed myself, thanks claire.

see this thread for my graph
http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.p ... ost1672792

cheers
rob

Ti Rich · Post by **Ti Rich** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:02 pm

Hey!

My torque was 267 not 265 - Neil beat me by one!

G- you were right, 20 down on your as expected!

Need to put a few HARD miles on it i think. Were the other results as expected or on the low side our of interest?

GeraintUk · Post by **GeraintUk** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:40 pm

was imo a very accurate set of rollers.

I fully expected to be around 20 down on bhp and torque as this is normal for the V8 engine when it's not got enough miles on it, very tight still.

some vids were taken, I rather hope they give you an idea of the volume when i stuck the 260 on.....

Thought Swanny had the loudest exhaust of the day, especially when the vtec cut in, but i of course covered my bases, and had two of the feckers

oh yes, it certainly does sound the part.

Neil got the trophy drinks in

next time he'll have the map on his car, so it might not be the same story

and next time we need masks as for half the day it became "day of the derv challenge". Much black smoke was inhaled by all

Just got back from 10-pin bowling with everyone. Many thanks to Clare for arranging it all. It was a good set of rollers with really friendly engineers, and i'm planning on going back in next couple of weeks when the Accufab throttle body is on so I can get a comparitive run.

Cheers
G

C2K · Post by **C2K** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:45 pm

Skatie's GTi a bit poorly?

Nice result G, that should start to loosen up in a few miles. Did you get your owed beer for beating Neil's torque?

GeraintUk · Post by **GeraintUk** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:54 pm

C2K wrote:Skatie's GTi a bit poorly?

Nice result G, that should start to loosen up in a few miles. Did you get your owed beer for beating Neil's torque?

hope so, but Accufab should get it pumping out factory figures and then more over next 10k miles.

I got my trophy beer, or more to the point, my mrs did, but I got a coke as well.......
He got off likely, I thought if "anyone" beat him, it was he buy the drinks for EVERYONE

pmsl.....

and watching Neil 10-pin bowling.
Sober he was sh1te
few beers and it was Kingpin time.....

Ti Rich · Post by **Ti Rich** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:11 pm

Big thanks to Clare

TonedefBRM · Post by **TonedefBRM** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:13 pm

Just got back, what a great day. Big thanks to Clare for organising it, shame I didn't run, but 1 car no upto it, and no point in running BRM as no changes made.

G, what a sweet sounding motor that is.

As I think Dan said, it will be like automotive sex, and he wasn't wrong.

Neil F · Post by **Neil F** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 12:20 am

Hi,

overall I think it was a pretty good day, again as seems to be the norm on rolling road days there was the issue of a few abnormalities caused by using the rev counter vs roller speed to 'calibrate' the rpm scale.

I think the difference was that these guys where actually willing to listen if you thought there was a mistake and did re-run a couple of cars, however the ZS diesel is obviously wrong and unfortunately didn't get re-run (I'll personally pay for another set of runs for you if you want to give it another go). I also believe as long as they got the calibration right the figures where pretty much spot on or even slightly conservative.

Car of the day for me was Andy's metro, great little car and amazing to see how much power was robbed by the socks.

Swannys Civic sounded mental, along with the Prelude, G's sounded really nice and inside the dyno bay actually made the walls vibrate! Oh, it also made the dyno smoke

The post roller events where good and it was nice to meet and chat to a few new people.

Cheers

Neil

GeraintUk · Post by **GeraintUk** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 1:00 am

well i had to match Grant when he broke Ric Woods rolling road

The "please get the car off the rollers as quick as possible" so they could cool down the motor and get rid of the smoke was entertaining

As you say Neil, key part was the operators were friendly and would actually listen to the owner, which may sound normal, but my experience most operators think they know everything, and these guys were much better becuase of an excellent customer facing attitude.

A pleasure all in all, and a rolling road i'll have no hestitation in using in the future.

Cheers
G

Chris220SDi · Post by **Chris220SDi** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:34 am

A fantastic day had by all methinks! Was great to see some big torque machines on the rollers. They seem like a good chaps, and were very accomodating with running the civic again!

A few highlights I'd like to mention are Neils 'I-cant-beleive-its-not-petrol' smoke free diesel, G's V8 soundtrack, and that mental powered Metro! Not only that, but the 'lude was rather tasy "Mmmmmm Motegi!'.

Big thanks to Neil, Clare and Andy from Intelligent Tuning

Clare · Post by **Clare** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:25 am

In my rush to get some results up yesterday I forgot to put up the 2 different metro figures.

Mahatma - 184Bhp @ 6538 - 155lbs/ft @ 5722 - Metro 1.8K - Without Filter Socks

Mahatma - 165Bhp @ 6778 - 140lbs/ft @ 5603 - Metro 1.8K - With Filter Socks

I personally think it was a really good (long) day. It was really nice to see a few new faces and a few old ones

hopefully we can organise something again.

The guys at the rollers were really helpful and motored through all the cars I can't believe they did 15 cars by 3pm.

Post rollers entertainment was also a good laugh, bowling was split into 3 teams, Mk2 (Skatiechic, E_T_V, Me, Neil & Gazza), BRM (Toni, Dendan, Andy & Kate) Mk3 and Newer (Geraint, Lyn, Jase, Christine & Mike)

Mk2 winner for both games was Gazza

BRM winner for both games was AndyR
Mk3 winners were Mike And Geraint (I believe)

Highlight of the evening.......

AndyR and Neil on the dance machine at the bowling ally

I'll let you all imagine what that was like.

Clare

jase · Post by **jase** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:32 am

Thanks to Clare and IT for organising the day and evening activities, i certainly enjoyed myself, apart from swanny's second run which gave me headache that lastest well into the evening! No, come to think of it I still have it.

The rollers and operators were excellent, and as said only the RPM calibration was a bit ropey. My torque graph looks spot on to how the car drives, but somehow they got peak bhp and the revlimit way to far up.
My result actually pleased me to, coz it must mean the car is as light as i hoped it was.

Ill post videos of Andy and Neil 'dancing'. Unfortunatly i dont have any of the 2 blondes that had a go afterwards!!

J

Nash · Post by **Nash** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 12:09 pm

Sorry i couldn't make it but lad buying teg wanted a look in the day light so couldn't win really.

I will take the Saph down there when i am off over christmas, but after what G did to Rollers i not to sure

I am really glad everyone had a good day, and totally gutted i missed it

I still want my drive Jase!

Beaker · Post by **Beaker** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:31 pm

C2K wrote:Skatie's GTi a bit poorly?

I just got in so I will scan the print out and place it up tomorrow along with some details.

At least we know what it is doing now, so it is a starting point for improvement. We haven't touched it apart from servicing and maintenance since I bought it so we hadn't a clue what power it was doing. It feels fast to me as I was used to driving a 214

It nearly didn't go on at all as it is a bit too low

(Mahatma had to pump the Metro up so it fitted on) .Clare took me out as a passenger in the Coupe oh my god soooo comfy compared to my boneshaker ride.

There are a few things which probably dont help and need looking at, but as I say I will make a post with more details tomorrow and see if anyone can provide some suggestions in where the power has been lost.

Also it was nice to meet everyone and I had a fab time. Many thanks for organising it.

Post by **agw_01** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:39 pm

Sorry I haven't posted earlier... been a bit busy.

Had a fantastic day. Was great to see a few old faces and meet some new people. Nice to finally get to talk to Jason about his beasty 214i... shame about the NOS bottle

Some awesome cars making pant-wetting noises. I took a few short video clips and some pictures so will sort through them and get any decent ones up on here.

Thanks to Clare, Andy and Neil for a great day. Was also good to talk to you Clare. Big thanks to G for the lift!

GeraintUk · Post by **GeraintUk** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:42 pm

agw_01 wrote:Big thanks to G for the lift!

and the little sideways demostration.
I thought you were going to need tissues

did you get a clip of the V8....really would like to see one.
Can mail it to me if it's too big to host....

cheers
g

Clare · Post by **Clare** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:13 pm

agw_01 wrote: I took a few short video clips and some pictures so will sort through them and get any decent ones up on here.

Come on get some pictures up

. I did hand Neil our camera to take some pictures but after looking at the camera I think he actually took about 3

I don't suppose you happened to get one of my Coupe actually looking clean for a change?

Agw, was also nice to meet you and have a chat, did you get to see that car? (sorry for delaying you

)

Clare