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Post by Roboscot »

Dont know whether this made my blood boil or made me laugh -

Got my car serviced earlier and I hung around at the garage to help out as it was a mate who was doing the work. As we were in the parts shop looking for the correct filters, another mechanic walked past and shouted up what were we looking for, to which my mate replied a fuel filter for a rover 220 turbo. The other guy scoffed and, not knowing the owner of said car was also present, said "Pah, a rover doesnt deserve a new filter, its gonna cost him more than his piece of sh!t is worth anyway" :o

Couldnt think of an immediate response but just said, 'ach its not quite as bad as that' - exit one very red-faced mechanic. Seems the professionals can be just as ignorant as the rest of them :|
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Sorry you put professionals and garage in the same post... now THAT made me laugh.

Did you tell him it was a turbo - now that really confuses them.

hmmm, Rover petrol TURBO did you say?

Is that a honda engine, or a diesel. :roll:
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Should have asked him what he drives, theres a comeback for pretty much every car manufacturer around like when a corsa driver trys making fun of mine, just point out the fact I prefer a car with at least 4 cylinders :P
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When I worked in a motor factors I used to drop parts out to a friend of the managers who worked in a main delaer but did a few jobs on the side on Saturdays. One day he was doing a Punto and a Focus. He came into the factors at around 4 and accused me of giving him the wrong oil filter for the Focus. He had it with him, showed him the book - filter for Punto, he had put the Focus filter on the Punto but the Punto filter wouldn't fit the focus. Exit one red faced mechanic searching through his phone for number of Mr Punto to call him back ! Although he seemed adamant that it seemed fine going on.

The chap who made that remark about Rovers sounds like a right thick, although he may have been joking, or just saying something for the sake of saying something.
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Well unsurprisingly that was our 2nd trip to the parts shop as originally they picked out a filter for a 216 thinking it must fit, as they werent familiar with any 200-series petrol turbos :dunce:

As for the car he drove himself, it was with great delight that I saw him leave work in a nice P-reg VW Polo :D
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Post by Cableguy »

Roboscot wrote:Well unsurprisingly that was our 2nd trip to the parts shop as originally they picked out a filter for a 216 thinking it must fit, as they werent familiar with any 200-series petrol turbos :dunce:

As for the car he drove himself, it was with great delight that I saw him leave work in a nice P-reg VW Polo :D
They do fit , they are the same from the 214 up to the 220
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Well it definately didnt fit, the fitting on the first one he picked out was visibly narrower and he told me it was either the 216 or 218, assuming all 200 series were the same. Got the wrong oil filter originally too.
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216 Honda engine doesnt fit the 220 Daniel san
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Post by lav »

sold something for my mum in the local paper, a bloke turned up in a shed of a Ford Cabrio. He saw my Coupe and said "that looks nice" to which I agreed..he then replied "ah but its a Rover ain't it" :ermm: :|
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Really would love to know why people who drive lesser cars think theirs is still above a rover just because it's a rover! :?
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Post by 200coupe »

Null_Byte wrote:Sorry you put professionals and garage in the same post... now THAT made me laugh.

Did you tell him it was a turbo - now that really confuses them.

hmmm, Rover petrol TURBO did you say?

Is that a honda engine, or a diesel. :roll:
Hahaha the bloke over the road was talking to me the other day and was asking why i sold my coupe, he said so what size engine is in this then and i said a 2lt turbo to which he replied oh is it a diesel then?
I said no its a petrol, to which he looked supprised and said so its fast then? lol

Id have been inclined to say, well ok then ill tell everyone else around here not to bother bringing there rovers to this garage then because its not going to be worth it because it will cost them more than the cars worth.

Some people are just total idiots, id have loved to know what he drove!

Fortunatly when ever i need to get a mechanic to do anything on my car (usualy only if i cant do it, im a cheap skate because my cars not worth it apparantly! lol) the chap who works on it is an ex rover mechanic and loves rovers so i know it would be in good hands
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Post by Punx0r »

Had a neighbour once who insisted his diesel renault was faster than my 800 after telling him it was a petrol turbo. I added "they're 200hp". He looked at the car and replied "maybe when new, I'd say that was about *thinks* 140hp now..."

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Post by Anthonyti »

kept telling a bloke my 620ti was a turbo petrol lump with 200+ bhp then as we left company he said shame it's a diesel as they're so slow :annoy: :roll: :ermm: :yawn:
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Post by Scott »

heh, ive never had any anti rover-ness come my way yet...

all my mates have been fairly impressed with my choice of rovers. As long as you go for the gti, the turbo, or whatever , then chances are its a decent car with nice spec/performance, which will really change peoples ideas..

if you lump them in a tired old logger heap of a 214si then chances are they will not be so convincingly persuaded.
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Scott wrote:if you lump them in a tired old logger heap of a 214si then chances are they will not be so convincingly persuaded.
You better not be including my 416 in that! can't really go any bigger a non-turbo 2L would go up to £2700/year damn insurance companys and being my first car :evil:
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Post by Punx0r »

I'd rather have a 214si than a 1300 escort :)
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Punx0r wrote:I'd rather have a 214si than a 1300 escort :)
I'd rather have my eyes poked out with a stick and my brain eaten by kittens than have a 1300 Escort. :mrgreen:
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how about a chavved up astra then steve?
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Squaddiemodo wrote:how about a chavved up astra then steve?
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LOL good answer well presented
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Post by MGJohn »

BrackenFox wrote:
Squaddiemodo wrote:how about a chavved up astra then steve?
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:mrgreen:
Funny how some folks take a dim view of things # failed attempt at humour ... note shades indoors.. :crylol:

Regarding the still very widespread "All Rovers are slow and crap" mindset... I blame Clarkson and most of the other so called professional media motoring types... ... :)
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Post by rovertomcat »

i'm breaking a k-series and bloke over the road from me who sells car's goes make sure u sell him that ecu with the engine all the sensor's are coded to the ecu

me and my friend looked at each other working out that what he was saying was out of he's ______

you turbo owners might aswell take the diesel crap they give you....it's worth it to see there face when you show them what this soo called diesel can do :x
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Post by 618ireland »

Exellent post by MG_John above, there was a programme on terrestrial TV called "Drive", one episode they road tested the Skoda Fabia, model had a 1.4 100bhp engine, they were wetting themselves with the sheer idea of a mainstream production 1.4 having 100bhp, another guy who writes in a national broadsheet was singing the praises of Toyota in the new millenium due to the 100bhp Corolla VVTi, 1990 Rover 200/400 1.4 Kseries anyone ??

Remember being well p'd off with both the programme and the journalist, complete and utter ignorance. It would have been great if they had mentioned the feat was accomplished in the late 80's by Rover, they probably didn't know. Problem with most of these folk is that they are primarily jounalists, not car enthusiasts. I would rather read an article about a car written by someone who knew what they were on about and who wrote with a bit of passion.
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Post by iantom »

iv owned 3 rovers mk2 2 214 mk3 214 and 620ti and I think they deserve the critacism. there logger. but the turbos do make a cheap fast car
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Post by Scott »

well yeah, the 214's are nothing special.... the later ones were worse.

the Ti isnt a bad car, depends how much you paid for it :D I dont like it as much as my 420, or my 820 turbo, or as much as my metro gti even, but its not that bad... not for 200quid anyways :D
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iantom wrote:iv owned 3 rovers mk2 2 214 mk3 214 and 620ti and I think they deserve the critacism. there logger. but the turbos do make a cheap fast car
I have no idea what mk2 214 you drove but mine was ace for a first car I couldn't have asked for much more. never had a problem with it in 25,000miles/2years cheep to buy and cheep on insurance. Sold it for almost what I had bought it for and was damn quick for a 1.4.

As for Rovers in Genral I always get the "yeah but its a Rover" my normal responise is "and you spent 6 times as much on your car and you don't even have full leathers and lets not even start on Performance." That tends to shut people up.
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iantom wrote:iv owned 3 rovers mk2 2 214 mk3 214 and 620ti and I think they deserve the critacism. there logger. but the turbos do make a cheap fast car
Bold opinion, yet no explanation/justification.
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Post by chuzz620 »

this is my 3rd rover now and i like them so to hell
with what anyone else say's was doing something on
my car under the bonnet and and the bloke who live's
across the road came out and said buy an alfa (which is what he drives)
how insualting lol :annoy:
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Post by Leo »

iantom wrote:iv owned 3 rovers mk2 2 214 mk3 214 and 620ti and I think they deserve the critacism. there logger. but the turbos do make a cheap fast car
Fantastic first post, welcome to Rovertech :|
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iantom wrote:iv owned 3 rovers mk2 2 214 mk3 214 and 620ti and I think they deserve the critacism. there logger. but the turbos do make a cheap fast car
So then, after the first one, why did you buy another, then another and then you join this forum?
There's a word for people like you, TROLL!!!

So what do you drive now ?

My son's first car, a Rover 214 SEi was great. His second, a 214 SEi was even better (he sold it to a member of overclockers who promptly wrote it off, as it saved his life). Then he got a 220 GSi and now a 420 GSi turbo.
I've got an 800 Mk1 which needs a little work but that's only because I've not got round to it yet. My current 800 has nearly 285,000 miles on it and she still does a ton-10 when needed and she's "only" a nasp.

As a newbie, you have a lot to learn about this forum and I'll forgive your sweeping statements about Rovers.

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Post by iantom »

well... you boys arnt half passionate about your rovers are you. i didnt meen to sound rude, but i have to say they are un reliable (immobilisers heasdgaskets etc) the slower one drive poor clutch and steering feel strange. but i must admit i dont hate them and would never say why have you bought a rover (honest!!!!!)
any way i feel with all the advice i have been giver i should retract my first statment :oops:
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Post by victor3 »

Rovers? Bloody luxury.

How do you think I feel owning a fookin' Mee-stro? :P
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iantom wrote:well... you boys arnt half passionate about your rovers are you. i didnt meen to sound rude, but i have to say they are un reliable (immobilisers heasdgaskets etc) the slower one drive poor clutch and steering feel strange. but i must admit i dont hate them and would never say why have you bought a rover (honest!!!!!)
any way i feel with all the advice i have been giver i should retract my first statment :oops:
Having owned 3 and driven hundreds of different cars I cant agree with any of the above. Reliability? On the rare occasion I have had a problem a Rover hasn't failed to get me home. When I have had problems mos to fo it is due to poor aftermarket parts(alarms, fse etc). Head gasket failure is only an issue on the K series, and even then if done properly its rare another will go.
Drving experience? Err they drive like pretty much any other car. Steering is over assisted, so as a result lacks communication, but no worse than any of their contemparies.
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victor3 wrote:How do you think I feel owning a fookin' Mee-stro? :P
Extremely smug? ;)

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Anthonyti wrote:kept telling a bloke my 620ti was a turbo petrol lump with 200+ bhp then as we left company he said shame it's a diesel as they're so slow :annoy: :roll: :ermm: :yawn:
haha, I was driving to work once, turned right at some traffic lights and put my foot down in 2nd gear from about 1600rpm.

Next thing I know, one of my work colleagues was up my ar$e in his Audi A4 1.9TDi (either 130 or 150 I think it was). Pulled into the carpark and I jump out to get some stuff out of the boot while it cools down.

He comes over, and when I close the boot, he points to the Turbo badge and says "Mine's just as quick as that. I was up your ar$e back there". I reply with "Oh, what gear were you in?" to which he says "1st".

I chuckle while replying, "I was in 2nd". Not to mention I had a passenger... a rather large guy.
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